Air logic or Air shammee

[Hamilton's Car & Dog Wash]

Looking for advice on the better product of these 2. They are very close in price, I have a 6 bay that I'm looking to add these to in January. I have seen that Air shammee offers in attic mount that seems like it would be a better look and possibly less upkeep

 

[Roz]

in one wash we used an attic mount dryer system (Air Shamee) and the other we used an in bay wall mount. Easier to check or service if mounted in the bay. The Air Shamee works great. I believe the main difference is their guns. One uses a trigger and the other uses a one piece design that does not have a trigger. Trigger version just offers one more thing that a customer can break by careless use so we recommend the one piece hand gun.

 

[PDonnelly]

In attic Air Shamee. I have 8 at one site and 4 at another. I wouldn't see why you would want those motors and everything hanging in a wet bay? And working in an attic over a ladder somedays is a welcomed opportunity. I check them twice a year, but really you can tell when they need a little working on just by running them, and air shamee is just like a Vac!

 

[washnshine]

In attic Air Shamee. I have 8 at one site and 4 at another. I wouldn't see why you would want those motors and everything hanging in a wet bay?

They are designed and rated for use in wet environments. Not that different from when we have several 10 or 15 hp blowers in our bays and tunnels - and some operators have the blowers for their automatic mounted outside the bay. Personally, I would prefer having the Air Shamee (or whatever brand you choose) in the bay to facilitate access.

 

[Earl Weiss]

Several years of in Bay Air shammee and no issues.

 

[Kimberly Berg]

Looking for advice on the better product of these 2. They are very close in price, I have a 6 bay that I'm looking to add these to in January. I have seen that Air shammee offers in attic mount that seems like it would be a better look and possibly less upkeep

In 2018, I went with Diskin's Air Shammee II, that has 1 - 4.5HP motor, mounted on my 5 bay walls. Our dryers get a lot of use. $10k investment was paid off in 3 months (per hour meters). Over the past 4 years we have improved their system as we found flaws... It might be over-kill but it's eliminated complaints from customers and increased customer satisfaction!

• Added SS elbow (from Mosmatic) because hose clamp was cutting into the hose.
• Added plastic vacuum cuffs to the elbow with self-tapping screws to help the hose stay on the boom elbow
• Upgraded the hose clamps on the hoses. The original ones weren't strong enough to tighten around plastic corrugated dryer hose.
• Added in-line swivel (Mosmatic)on the boom plate because short hose would kink when the boom was used.
• Replaced their nozzle with Air Logics nozzle. Diskin's nozzle has an inner baffle that restricts the air flow & the back pressure caused a lot of problems (holes in hoses, hoses blowing off the end of the boom, rivets falling out of the nozzle). Also, customers didn't like holding the trigger while using.
• Upgraded their sign with liability risk due to higher air speed.
• Remounted the boom bracket through the concrete bay wall using 10" bolts, to support the added weight and welded the boom sections together.
• Added 3' boom extension (from Mosmatic) to reduce stress on the dryer hose & better reach over customers vehicle.
• Upgraded wand holder

If you want to see photos or more information, please send me a message. My photos are too large to upload here. I'm HAPPY to share!

 

[Kimberly Berg]

In attic Air Shamee. I have 8 at one site and 4 at another. I wouldn't see why you would want those motors and everything hanging in a wet bay? And working in an attic over a ladder somedays is a welcomed opportunity. I check them twice a year, but really you can tell when they need a little working on just by running them, and air shamee is just like a Vac!

The Diskins are designed for in-bay use. The motors have sealed bearings. Their new motor cover has solid sides. I've been using for 4 years now & have not had a problem with their motors or water abuse.

 

[washnshine]

In 2018, I went with Diskin's Air Shammee II, that has 1 - 4.5HP motor, mounted on my 5 bay walls. Our dryers get a lot of use. $10k investment was paid off in 3 months (per hour meters). Over the past 4 years we have improved their system as we found flaws... It might be over-kill but it's eliminated complaints from customers and increased customer satisfaction!

• Added SS elbow (from Mosmatic) because hose clamp was cutting into the hose.
• Added plastic vacuum cuffs to the elbow with self-tapping screws to help the hose stay on the boom elbow
• Upgraded the hose clamps on the hoses. The original ones weren't strong enough to tighten around plastic corrugated dryer hose.
• Added in-line swivel (Mosmatic)on the boom plate because short hose would kink when the boom was used.
• Replaced their nozzle with Air Logics nozzle. Diskin's nozzle has an inner baffle that restricts the air flow & the back pressure caused a lot of problems (holes in hoses, hoses blowing off the end of the boom, rivets falling out of the nozzle). Also, customers didn't like holding the trigger while using.
• Upgraded their sign with liability risk due to higher air speed.
• Remounted the boom bracket through the concrete bay wall using 10" bolts, to support the added weight and welded the boom sections together.
• Added 3' boom extension (from Mosmatic) to reduce stress on the dryer hose & better reach over customers vehicle.
• Upgraded wand holder

If you want to see photos or more information, please send me a message. My photos are too large to upload here. I'm HAPPY to share!

Many thanks for sharing this information, Kimberly - this is great advice!

 

[Hamilton's Car & Dog Wash]

That's a great reply thank you for your time and information

 

[Kimberly Berg]

Many thanks for sharing this information, Kimberly - this is great advice!

After 4 years of process improvement, I feel that I can finally relax. We have built a BETTER mousetrap & customers are happy. It's been quite a journey & hopefully I can spare my fellow operators some grief & headaches!

 

[washnshine]

After 4 years of process improvement, I feel that I can finally relax. We have built a BETTER mousetrap & customers are happy. It's been quite a journey & hopefully I can spare my fellow operators some grief & headaches!

Diskin should hire you to re-engineer parts of their design!

 

[Kimberly Berg]

Diskin should hire you to re-engineer parts of their design!

Lol! Now that's FUNNY!! When I bought my Diskin system, Troy Diskin at first was very sympathetic to our problems. He was confused & told me "no one else was having these issues!" I sent him text messages with photos but he offered few solutions. He stopped replying to my texts. But I'm positive, tenacious & solution-oriented. Through a lot of research & trials, my boyfriend & I have engineered solutions that have solved the design issues. I have learned that salesman are NOT engineers!!

 

[MEP001]

I have learned that salesman are NOT engineers!!

I have learned that salesmen are not engineers, engineers are not service techs, and service techs are not salesmen.

Apologies for the off-topic question, but does anyone with dryers have trouble with people opening up the car doors and blowing the trash out into the bays?

 

[Hamilton's Car & Dog Wash]

Mep, I also was wondering if that would be a problem in my wash.

 

[Kimberly Berg]

I'm at my car wash most days & haven't noticed that problem. Probably depends on the area & demographics. Most customers use on their glass, grill & rims. Works great to dry wet mats & blow out crumbs, where the vacuum claws can't reach.

 

[Earl Weiss]

Made many of same refinements as Ms. Berg. Primarily Stainless Elbow and Swivel cuffs. I Dust tape hose onto end of cuff because in hot weather the hose gets pliable and comes out easily. I don't want it too secure in case a car hooks it I want it to come apart.

 

[Roz]

In 2018, I went with Diskin's Air Shammee II, that has 1 - 4.5HP motor, mounted on my 5 bay walls. Our dryers get a lot of use. $10k investment was paid off in 3 months (per hour meters). Over the past 4 years we have improved their system as we found flaws... It might be over-kill but it's eliminated complaints from customers and increased customer satisfaction!

• Added SS elbow (from Mosmatic) because hose clamp was cutting into the hose.
• Added plastic vacuum cuffs to the elbow with self-tapping screws to help the hose stay on the boom elbow
• Upgraded the hose clamps on the hoses. The original ones weren't strong enough to tighten around plastic corrugated dryer hose.
• Added in-line swivel (Mosmatic)on the boom plate because short hose would kink when the boom was used.
• Replaced their nozzle with Air Logics nozzle. Diskin's nozzle has an inner baffle that restricts the air flow & the back pressure caused a lot of problems (holes in hoses, hoses blowing off the end of the boom, rivets falling out of the nozzle). Also, customers didn't like holding the trigger while using.
• Upgraded their sign with liability risk due to higher air speed.
• Remounted the boom bracket through the concrete bay wall using 10" bolts, to support the added weight and welded the boom sections together.
• Added 3' boom extension (from Mosmatic) to reduce stress on the dryer hose & better reach over customers vehicle.
• Upgraded wand holder

If you want to see photos or more information, please send me a message. My photos are too large to upload here. I'm HAPPY to share!

We had done some of the changes you mention too, can you add pics to the above as they are clever and your list is most helpful? thx

 

[Kimberly Berg]

We had done some of the changes you mention too, can you add pics to the above as they are clever and your list is most helpful? thx

I'd love to, but I keep getting an error that my photos are too large. Do you know how to add photos or recommend software to link photos?

 

[Roz]

Dropbox. You Can make a free account that is size limited to maybe 100MB total. Then provide a public link to them.

Dropbox.com

Dropbox helps you simplify your workflow. So you can spend more time in your flow.

www.dropbox.com

 

[Kimberly Berg]

Dropbox. You Can make a free account that is size limited to maybe 100MB total. Then provide a public link to them.

Dropbox.com

Dropbox helps you simplify your workflow. So you can spend more time in your flow.

www.dropbox.com

YES!!! Thank you Roz!!! I already have a Dropbox account but didn't know I could share a public link. I'm uploading updated photos & will provide a link this afternoon!