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HAHAHAHAHA, well our father-in-law owns the building so paying rent or leasing isn't an expense we have to deal with.

There has been precedents of spot zoning in the area, so we shall see....

That's what I am thinking, but we are getting the building for "free"

Lawyer here we come....Alderman wanted nothing to do with us.....

Earl, We talked to the Chamber (3 different board members) and they are all on our side but when they approached the alderman's office, they got the same response we have gotten thus far. Where can I find some info on the special use permit? Also, we have stated that we wouldn't mind attending...

All, My brother-in-law and I have a 10am meeting Friday with the Alderman here in Chicago to see if we can get him on our side to rezone the property. His "policy" is that he doesn't spot zone property, but would prefer to rezone an entire block. This doesn't make much sense because the only...

Earl, Finally got a response/call from the Chamber of Commerce, and they understand what we want to do completely. We are going to meet at my father-in-law's shop, go over what exactly we want to do, show him its feasible, and hopefully he will come with us to the Alderman sit down October...

Wow, what great backing they provide I see. I just can't see how it helps the community to drive businesses out of the city. Then what gets me is "if I zone you for commercial, I have to zone the whole block for commercial, then who am I to say no" Shouldn't this be evaluated on a case by...

Sorry, whats the ICA? I agree that if we can get the chamber on our side it has to be beneficial. And as their website says, "to promote and assure economic development and growth"

Earl, Just gave my brother-in-law the contact information for the chamber of commerce. Is it bad the Alderman is on of the directors on their board? (although there are 5 people higher up the line than he is, President, VP.... etc) Bob

Earl, I was hoping I would get a response from you. Thanks for describing how this process can/will go down. We are not going down without a fight. The one thing I did find is one of the "competitor" hand washes that is 3 miles away, in the same ward, isn't zoned for commercial business but...

Just got off a 30 minute conference call with the alderman and my brother-in-law. To condense this story down, what happened was, the alderman in the ward of our city where the business is located, bascially said he would not go to city council to fight for us to get rezoned. The building is...

I definitely agree Leo and IB. The problem we are coming into now is do we pitch this idea to banks as a new business needing "start-up" funds to "purchase" the building in question, or do we try another lender to do a commercial refinance and cash-out? Here are the facts of the situation in...

Waxman, Will do, thanks for the input. Now I just have to add a few additional financials and some commentary. Bob

I already have most of the plan done. I have all financials and projections (good, better, best) complete for this. I just need a few additional pieces to wrap this puppy up and put it together correctly.

Its a long story as to why we went in without one, but the situation was our father-in-law was going to borrow the funds we needed against the building he currently owns. He thought he could just borrow against the equity, but then the bank wanted a break down of what the $80K was going to be...

Before the bank will officially sign off on our loan, we need to produce a business plan so the bank can review it and have it on file. Does anyone have a template out there that they could forward on to me? Or if you have a website I can use, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. Bob

Waiting for a response.

So all my run-off water doesn't have to go directly into the drain, does anyone have an idea/suggestion (if it can be done) for a water recycling system for a hand car wash? Is this even doable for a hand wash with a limited amount of space? Also, there is a fairly new hydraulic lift in this...

MEP (or anyone else), I am asking once again for you to point me in the right direction. I have gone to the advertisers on this site and can't find anything close to what I am looking for. Please help. Thanks. Bob