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If I could shut down and walk away I sure would if I could get back what I have invested. We are getting clobbered here but it's not the economy. It's the weather. We have lost 70% of our former normal wash days since October of 2007 and of the past 5 months , 3 have been wetter than ever on...

Running a tunnel unattended is very problematic in my experience. I agree that a Self Serve or IBA/Self Serve benefits from someone on site most of the day who can do more than clean up but a tunnel needs someone there all the time exponentially more than an SS does. This is where there is no...

the herd is definitely thinning here....or more likely now just new owners who got in cheaper on short sales and foreclosures those of us with "other cash" are spending it to stay alive, those without are belly up July looks to be as bad as May was now, we had only around one week of less than...

Robert Roman, with all due respect I don't think you are quite getting what I am talking about...sure the weather will turn around..one day who knows, it's only been two years of this...this is like no one has ever seen ..including folks who have been in the business since the 50s, this is not...

did u do it? 14k/TC is mighty low for a tunnel or anything more than one rollover unless you have zero comp and many rooftops

I own a nice 80 footer here in Nashville area and it's one of my few washes making any money (weather here has been atrocious for nearly 2 years). We run the cars slow at 3.5 minutes and dump top notch Lustra chems on them. Presoak, side brushes and lift off, overhead brush (not miters) and...

You are quite fortunate. Everyone I know in this biz in Michigan is crying

We have been getting absolutely creamed by the cloud cover and rain patterns here in Middle Tennessee being the exact inverse of normal since November of 2007 and it only looks to get worse in this wet cloudy Dublin summer that never was we're having This is my 3rd thread post on this now over...

We have been getting absolutely creamed by the cloud cover and rain patterns here in Middle Tennessee being the exact inverse of normal since November of 2007 and it only looks to get worse in this wet cloudy Dublin summer that never was we're having I wish that such an animal as this insurance...

just an update: rain and /or predominate cloud cover 17 of past 18 days...we thought October of 2007 was the worst ever, then it was November of 2008 but now it's probably going to be this month, May of 2008. I know of at least a half dozen washes...nice washes and a few dumpy ones in trouble...

I've done two deals in the past few months involving low 7 figures with washes and it was the usual 75-80% loan to value 20 year amortization @ 5.2%...5 year balloon

We do not have good months anymore in Nashville. the weather has been horrible for the better part of two years. Three times normal cloud cover. No snow to speak of. Rain rain and more rain. Revenues have collapsed basically and only the strong are surviving. Forget gas prices or Obama, problem...

Pat is correct that in this overbuilt, poor economy and in my case more than anything else....bad weather patterns...scenario that opportunities will arise. Course that ain't gonna help folks going broke now. I used to think that a loan to value of 50% or monthly debt servicing at no more than...

Keeley Hazell's breast is anything but fake hoss. http://images.google.com/images?as_q=keeley+hazell&gbv=2&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&imgtype=&imgsz=&as_filetype=&imgc=&as_sitesearch=&safe=off&as_st=y

I'm offering Jack Frost Special at time at our tunnel half price on 12 dollar works.....folks like it we have had 15 months of poor weather...especially winter, spring, ok summer, bad fall, bad winter now 2008 down 22% from 2007

You need a couple of gas hanger wall heaters sounds like.....cheap fairly economical. you can buy the 5CP 2120 Cat for replacement and save a little and have almost same function

My experience with Shurvend has been nice. We have one of the new real big ones.....64 or so other than that I lkike the simple steel drop column boxes....less headache

yes...very rare in Nashville to see self serve bays without floor and apron heat and anti-freeze and weeps etc older rinky dink washes maybe

Busy today here too in Nashville at 28 degree high. Gonna be single digits or near zero next few nights and so that presents issues for our tunnels and far side SS bays lots anti-freeze, no freeze CSI soap, hot water wash down pump with anti-freeze and the diesel torpedo heater fired up and...

Last year in December 2007, I wrote a thread here about the weather. This winter is just as bad, maybe worse. Clouds, rain, clouds rain.....80-90% I know of half dozen operators in Nashville area who can't get chems or parts....accounts frozen. Summer was lackluster due to gas prices I'd...