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What are the best products and methods to use when buffing a black car so you don't get swril marks??
 

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Clean or new buffing pads.

Keeping the pad flat while you buff.

keep the rpm's 1000-1200 range.

do not run the pad dry (keep applying product as you buff)

use a buffered compound and a cutting pad (I like wool to cut)

3M Perfect It makes a nice machine glaze for dark colors

finish glaze with a foam polishing pad.
 

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Quick Question

Since I'm not familiar with you... or the vehicle, I'd like to ask a basic question. :eek: Please don't be offended.

If you're using a variable=speed rotary buffer, how would you rate your expertise in buffing... on a scale of 1-10? Be honest, because I may be able to offer a life changing recommendation.:confused:
 

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You might want to try the new "swirl-free" polishing tool, the BUFFPRO.

This was invented by a detailer in Florida because he was tired of the buffing swirls that one gets with a traditional rotary buffer.

It somes with several different styles of pads a light wool pad and several densities of foam, including a soft foam finishing pad.

Excellent tool and excellent results.

The inventor prefers Menzera products to use with the BUFFPRO.

Bud Abraham
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You might want to try the new "swirl-free" polishing tool, the BUFFPRO.

This was invented by a detailer in Florida because he was tired of the buffing swirls that one gets with a traditional rotary buffer.

It somes with several different styles of pads a light wool pad and several densities of foam, including a soft foam finishing pad.

Excellent tool and excellent results.

The inventor prefers Menzera products to use with the BUFFPRO.

Bud Abraham
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What's the unit cost and pad cost?

Besides swirlfree, it is any faster due to its size?

Is Buffpro cumbersome and heavy (I'm not getting any younger and frankly, running an electric rotary buffer is tiring and like a workout)?

Just a few well- intentioned questions.
 

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Waxman:

The tool lists for $399 and the wool pad at $49.95 and foam pads $39.95, but they last quite a long time.

There is a special going on which includes the tool and 5 pads for $499.

Great question, it will do the same work as a rotary in 1/2 the time. That is why it is being embraced by boat; airplane and motor home detailers because you can cover so much area faster with less effort.

It is BIG and it look BULKY and it is HEAVY, all those things, but when you get it in your hands and see how the rotation of the drum pad into the surface of the vehicle takes all the weight and bulkiness off the tool and the hands of the user. You simply let it glide over the surface.

Where are you located and maybe I can find someone in the area with a tool you can see, feel and touch.

If weight is a problem you ought to look at using the lighter weight air tools. We use an air powered dual-action buffer that weighs about 3lbs that is very good and reduces "old man" fatigue. You are cetainly not as old as I am. I am even before "Baby Boomers."

Bud Abraham
 

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Good reply, Bud.

I am 60 miles West of Boston, MA.

I do use air tools more now than ever and my late switch to them has given me a new zeal for detailing.

Waxing a car with an air orbital has made me more inspired for waxing than ever ( and I used to really love hand waxing).

Does Buffpro have limitations with tight spots on passenger cars (below side mirrors, around wings, 'b' and 'c' pillars, etc?
 

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Good reply, Bud.

I am 60 miles West of Boston, MA.

I do use air tools more now than ever and my late switch to them has given me a new zeal for detailing.

Waxing a car with an air orbital has made me more inspired for waxing than ever ( and I used to really love hand waxing).

Does Buffpro have limitations with tight spots on passenger cars (below side mirrors, around wings, 'b' and 'c' pillars, etc?
WAXMAN

Thanks for the reply.

Specifically what city, and how far will you drive to see one in operation.

Have been using and recommending air tools for buffing, waxing and shampooing for years. It is a no brainer for fatigue.

A mini orbital allows you to wax a car in 5 minutes. Still remove with two towels however.

Have you tried the small airdriven rotary shampooer tool? Marvelous

The BUFFPRO has no more difficulties in tight spots than you would have with a rotary buffer with a 9" pad.

Considering you get no swirls or holograms and the speed with which you get the work done, any disadvantages that can be conjured up against the tool wane in comparison to the benefits, in my opinion.

Do you know me? Do I know you? What is your full name?

Regards
Bud Abraham
 

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Who has used one?

Saw the video and it looks good.

Price tag is high, as are pad prices.

Could probably get $100 for my used Snap On rotary electric buffer.
 
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