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LED7 V7.30 and Nayax count up

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Minni1986

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Hey everyone, first post. Recently got a self serve and have been getting it back up. Been learning a lot from all the posts! Much much appreciated!!!

I have 3 LED7 v7.36 and using wire #9 for count up…..Howeverr, I have one LED7 on version 7.30


This version does not let me choose cc pulse value….


Would count up work still with this? I have been reaching out to Nayax with no response.
 
JLanman said:
For count up on the LED 7 it should be terminals 9 and 6.

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Hey thanks for getting back to me…

Yes this is how it is wired, and does not work. I had another LED7 which also is on version v7.30, and same thing. I went ahead and just ordered a new LED7 from Kleen-rite as I didn’t want to use relays and other stuff.

I haven’t tried putting 9 to 6…..I’ll give this a shot. But wondering where the pulse from Nayax would go?assuming on 8?
 
cantbreak80 said:
A simple COUNT-UP solution for any car wash bay or vacuum installation…

Use an opto-coupler interface to allow the NAYAX VPOS to serve as the timer for credit card sales.

HiLetgo optocoupler

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Hey, just saw this, I’ll order this and give it a shot

I am assuming this is completely bypassing the LED7 and giving power directly to the rotary switch.

I’ll possibly have to find another DC power source to run also? As mine are 24vAC
 
Minni1986 said:
I am assuming this is completely bypassing the LED7 and giving power directly to the rotary switch.

I’ll possibly have to find another DC power source to run also? As mine are 24vAC
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Correct...it parallels the LED7's (or any other timer's) Timed Output.

There is no need for a DC power supply for Nayax. They work just fine on your coin box's 24v AC.
 
Minni1986 said:
Hey thanks for getting back to me…

Yes this is how it is wired, and does not work. I had another LED7 which also is on version v7.30, and same thing. I went ahead and just ordered a new LED7 from Kleen-rite as I didn’t want to use relays and other stuff.

I haven’t tried putting 9 to 6…..I’ll give this a shot. But wondering where the pulse from Nayax would go?assuming on 8?
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You know you can send your LED-7 v7.30 Timers into Dixmor and have them upgraded to a v7.36. There is a $30 fee for this timer version upgrade.
 
For fancy installations, add an illuminated external Stop Pushbutton and/or coin count reporting thru Nayax Core/MOMA App.

2 versions (for proof of concept)
HiLetgo optocoupler and IDEC DPDT ice cube relay...too big for real life installation
InkBird SSR and IDEC DPDT interface relay...smaller enclosure fits most meter boxes

Yeah, we fancy! ;)

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cantbreak80 said:
For fancy installations, add an illuminated external Stop Pushbutton and/or coin count reporting thru Nayax Core/MOMA App.

2 versions (for proof of concept)
HiLetgo optocoupler and IDEC DPDT ice cube relay...too big for real life installation
InkBird SSR and IDEC DPDT interface relay...smaller enclosure fits most meter boxes

Yeah, we fancy! ;)

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lol maybe in the future. This car wash has been closed for 6/7 years. I’m trying to rezone and get plans/permitting ready for storage units. I figure it’s gonna take at least16-18 months till any construction happens, so just bring this car wash up so it can pay its own property taxes. It’s in a busy intersection next to a gas station…if it does 15/20K a month then I would abandon plans on storage units and keep this going. It’s 12ft high and people have been stopping by asking when I’ll reopen it. I’ve only put in 5K, mostly everything has been working well, most expenses was credit card processing. I’ll definitely be reinvesting 50% profit back into it for a bit to get newer stuff….triple rinse and air dryers. But for now just getting it open and trying to run it. Will run it as $3 wash for 5mins for a couple months. I’m sure I’m gonna have a lot of issues arising once it starts seeing customers.
 
cantbreak80 said:
For fancy installations, add an illuminated external Stop Pushbutton and/or coin count reporting thru Nayax Core/MOMA App.

2 versions (for proof of concept)
HiLetgo optocoupler and IDEC DPDT ice cube relay...too big for real life installation
InkBird SSR and IDEC DPDT interface relay...smaller enclosure fits most meter boxes

Yeah, we fancy! ;)

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Interested to know more about the coin count reporting via nayax. That would be great to add to our existing installations.
 
Keno,
The easiest way to add coin count reporting is to install a 24v AC SPST relay.
Connect coin acceptor output and 24v AC common to the relay coil.
Connect Nayax Pulse Wire 2 (Dark Blue) and jumper the VCC Wire (Light Blue) to the relay contacts.

In Nayax Core, GoTo Operations>Machines>Attributes
Enable Attributes #656, 657, & 660
Click SAVE!

Then, GoTo General>Pulse/ccTalk
Enter “Credit per Pulse” as 25
Enter “Pulse IN2 Counter” as 1 to count every quarter,
or 4 to count every 4 quarters, etc.
Click UPDATE!

Repeat this procedure for each site’s machines.

Regarding Pulse IN2 Counter and “Last Sales” reports:
Use 1 to report each and every quarter deposited. This will fill your Moma “Last Sales” report with many-many CA$H sales.
Use 4 to report every 4 quarters deposited. This reduces the “Last Sales” report to every 4 quarters or every dollar coin/token.
Use 20 to report every $5 value deposited. This reduces the “Last Sales” report significantly.
(You can always Filter the Cash and Credit Sales in the reports)

Some of my clients use 1 and count every single quarter.
Most of my clients use 4 for “Pulse IN2 Counter” value to report dollar values.
Other clients count their Price-to-Start value so,
$3.00 to start would be 12,
$4.00 to start = 16
$5.00 to start = 20.
Additional coins are held in escrow until the Counter setting is met.

Note there is no fee for Nayax's coin counting feature.
 
cantbreak80 said:
Keno,
The easiest way to add coin count reporting is to install a 24v AC SPST relay.
Connect coin acceptor output and 24v AC common to the relay coil.
Connect Nayax Pulse Wire 2 (Dark Blue) and jumper the VCC Wire (Light Blue) to the relay contacts.

In Nayax Core, GoTo Operations>Machines>Attributes
Enable Attributes #656, 657, & 660
Click SAVE!

Then, GoTo General>Pulse/ccTalk
Enter “Credit per Pulse” as 25
Enter “Pulse IN2 Counter” as 1 to count every quarter,
or 4 to count every 4 quarters, etc.
Click UPDATE!

Repeat this procedure for each site’s machines.

Regarding Pulse IN2 Counter and “Last Sales” reports:
Use 1 to report each and every quarter deposited. This will fill your Moma “Last Sales” report with many-many CA$H sales.
Use 4 to report every 4 quarters deposited. This reduces the “Last Sales” report to every 4 quarters or every dollar coin/token.
Use 20 to report every $5 value deposited. This reduces the “Last Sales” report significantly.
(You can always Filter the Cash and Credit Sales in the reports)

Some of my clients use 1 and count every single quarter.
Most of my clients use 4 for “Pulse IN2 Counter” value to report dollar values.
Other clients count their Price-to-Start value so,
$3.00 to start would be 12,
$4.00 to start = 16
$5.00 to start = 20.
Additional coins are held in escrow until the Counter setting is met.

Note there is no fee for Nayax's coin counting feature.
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Thank you very much for the detailed how-to guide, will give it a shot on 1 of my bays for starters.

Nice to see you back on the forums!
 
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