spot free on Super Saver

[Jimmy Buffett]

My spot free is part of my Super Saver pump bench. Mine is making a terrible screeching noise every time it kicks on. Obviously there is something that is waiting for a beautiful sunny day after a snow storm to completely lock up. I assume it is the pump that is making the noise but am not certain. Anybody had this before? Was it the pump? Please tell me it is not a proprietary part!
Thanks

 

[Buzzie8]

I had the exact same thing on my JCC Super Saver. It was the production pump. I tried to repair the old one with a new stack but it still had problems. I ended up replacing it with a Dayton pump from Grainger with the same specs. It works fine. I was also told by a car wash old timer (Manni's) in New Kensington who has been building SS for years that you did not need the stainless for the production pump because the water was untreated at this point and that it would not make a difference. Been about a year and $500 but everything is OK right now. Also, I think I saw KR had Sta-Rite pumps on their website. I am assuming the noise is heard when the production side turns on. Good luck.

PS. you can easily plumb the system to run if the pump goes down before you replace it but you will not be delivering spot free.

 

[MEP001]

In case you need a new pump:

http://www.drillspot.com/pumps/centrifugal-pumps/multi-stage-booster-pumps-and-systems/

 

[Jimmy Buffett]

How do I know which pump I need? Where can I find the specs?
Thanks

 

[Tom Thumb]

It should be the one with the largest cat pump and it will also have a pressure gauge on it, mine is mounted on the rack with pump for each bay.

 

[Buzzie8]

Actually it should be a Sta-Rite HPS10E that is having the problem (at least that's what my JCC Super Saver had). I think that it is a 220V 10GPM 1 HP pump. If I remember I will try to get the model off my Dayton replacement pump tomorrow. I had a bunch of trouble with two Gould pumps before I went to the Dayton. PM me tomorrow to remind me!

 

[Greg Pack]

Jimmy what size is your system? Depending on size it could be a procon pump on a c face motor, or a multi stage booster pump.

 

[Jimmy Buffett]

I'm thinking the Dayton pump at the top of the page here is the one: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/ww...booster+pump&N=0&GlobalSearch=true&sst=subset. I just need to make sure there is room. This one looks longer than the one I have.

 

[Buzzie8]

I just called grainger. Here is the exact pump number and link:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/DAYTON-Multistage-Booster-5NXZ7?Pid=search

Dayton 5NXZ7 556.00 1HP Single Grainger

Mounting bolts are different but two will line up and that should be all you need. I checked my TDS reading for spot free yesterday and it was only .006 so it must be working OK

 

[Jimmy Buffett]

Just bought it. Thanks! Can an idiot like me change it or do I need an electrician? That should be in caps, IDIOT, no electrical skills whatsoever! That would be me...

 

[Buzzie8]

I think you should be OK. Shut breaker off to pump. (I also put a small vice grip on the float in your storage tank to keep float up as though water level has not dropped as well) Remove old pump. Take hose fittings from old pump and put on new pump. I can't remember if I needed a reducer for the old fittings or not because I first tried a Gould pump. Should not be a big deal either way. After putting fittings on, attach new pump to pump stand using only two of the previous four bolts. The motor is single phase so the motor will only run one way. There should only be two wires and a ground and as long as you don't hook up the wrong wire to the ground you should be OK on the other two. I also use a small Klein electric test light to check for hot wires and to make sure I shut off correct breaker because I hate getting zapped! I am confident you should be OK but maybe have an electrician on call if you run into problems. Good luck!

 

[pitzerwm]

JimmyB its pretty simple, there is a black and white wire(110), most times a bare ground wire, the white and grd are connected together in the circuit breaker box. Number one no-no, do not place the white and black wire on your tongue or any other body part to check for voltage.

Some times you also have a red wire (220), DO NOT USE YOUR TONGUE to test.

 

[Jimmy Buffett]

The pump that is on there is wired inside the motor and to the board. Can we just cut and splice?
Thanks

 

[MEP001]

It's probably just spade connectors.

 

[Buzzie8]

The pump that is on there is wired inside the motor and to the board. Can we just cut and splice?
Thanks

I think splicing would be OK.