Turbo Vacs

[JamboWash]

Anyone have one of this Turbo Vacs with 3 motors, I am deciding to put some in and would like some feedback

1. how are they compared to 2 motor vacs
2. what do you charge for a Turbo vac compared to a 2 motor vac
3. read on the forum that some have used the Domel motors from windtax for more suction on 2 motor vacs, which model motor did you use.

Thanks

 

[Car_Wash_Guy]

The Domel motors from Windtrax are DOMEL 492.4.

 

[BBE]

The Domel motors from Windtrax are DOMEL 492.4.

Do these really give more suction than the lamb or kleen rite motors? They are twice the price of the KR motors that we normally use. On the other hand lately I have been having terrible luck with the KR vac motors. I think I've replaced at least 5 or 6 over the last few months. The brushes outlast the motors... These are the ones we currently use:

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-581-kleen-rite-6600-19t-vacuum-motor-120v.aspx

 

[Earl Weiss]

On the other hand lately I have been having terrible luck with the KR vac motors. I think I've replaced at least 5 or 6 over the last few months. The brushes outlast the motors... These are the ones we currently use:

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-581-kleen-rite-6600-19t-vacuum-motor-120v.aspx

I have not had a problem. Use bunches of them. Can't help but think something else is going on like a hole in the filter bag. Do you notice a lot of dirt in the top where the motor is? Nay other unusual visual signs?

 

[BBE]

I have not had a problem. Use bunches of them. Can't help but think something else is going on like a hole in the filter bag. Do you notice a lot of dirt in the top where the motor is? Nay other unusual visual signs?

Nothing that stands out. The part of the motor that the brushes spin on has gotten a nick in it a few times somehow and then whenever you put new brushes in and start it back up it just throws sparks everywhere. Sometimes the motor will seize up and get hard to spin the blade, sometimes a motor will just keep blowing fuses everytime you try and turn the vac on...just a whole bunch of random things on all different vacuums, never the same vacuum twice. Maybe I just have really bad luck.

 

[MEP001]

I haven't tried that motor but I had terrible luck with the GS motor it replaced. I've looked at the new one and it has the same sleeve bearing in the top which is a lot to ask of a bearing in a high RPM motor. I tried replacing brushes in them a few times after they wore to the point the motor would quit and the either replacements lasted half as long as the originals or it just sparked and smelled. IMO if you plan to replace brushes you need to do it before they wear down and burn the commutator.

The ratings on the Domel 492.4 list more volume than the KR motor and more lift than the Lamb, not much more but it outperforms them both. I have yet to need to replace brushes in any, some of which are over 6 years old.

 

[Randy]

Nothing that stands out. The part of the motor that the brushes spin on has gotten a nick in it a few times somehow and then whenever you put new brushes in and start it back up it just throws sparks everywhere. Sometimes the motor will seize up and get hard to spin the blade, sometimes a motor will just keep blowing fuses everytime you try and turn the vac on...just a whole bunch of random things on all different vacuums, never the same vacuum twice. Maybe I just have really bad luck.

I replaced the brushes this morning on a Electrolux vac motor that looks exactly like the KR motor #VMK19 https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-581...otor-120v.aspx I’ve had pretty good luck with them, the motor I changed the brushes on is about 6 years old. When you put new brushes you want to make sure the brush contacts the commutator on the motor or the brush will arc excessively on commutator and the motor will burn up in no time from the excessive arcing. To stop this file or sand down the top and or bottom of the brush so it fits up against the commutator on the motor. Sometimes the commutator wears and the new brushes are just a little wider than the wear pattern on the commutator on the motor.

A few years ago I talked to the head of sales for smooth bore vac hoses and he told me that you only get 210 CFM’s up a 2 inch vac hose. Most vac motors are rated at around 100 cfm’s.

 

[Earl Weiss]

................... the motor I changed the brushes on is about 6 years old. ..................

Can't say I keep track of how old my motors are but I typicaly run them until they die. I would guess 2-3 years ... BUT by that time the whole thing is so corroded I couldn't see any point in replacing anything. But perhaps my customers are tougher on my stuff. I am under subpoena to testify to my video of some alleged murderers using my Shampoo and Vac to clean the blood out of the car. Since it's dark and 2:00 am and all you can see is shadows I expect the only thing i can testify to is that it's my video. The blood must be hard on the motors.

 

[Mbalboni]

Just replaced all my motor gaskets and door clean out gaskets. Haven't seen suction like this since they were new, two motor JE Adams dual vac

 

[jprb]

I try to remember to write the date I install the motors, or brushes, on the motor itself with a sharpie. Helps keep trap if one motor is eating up brushes quicker than normal.
JPRB