What is the best way to mount a coin box?

[Buzzie8]

I am mounting a coin box for a bay that I am converting to a Dog Wash. Although I want to flush mount it I cannot because it is thicker than an exterior wall that it will be mounted to. My plan right now is to drill 4 holes through the brick masonry and use 1/4" toggle bolts. I am concerned that I might not find a recess on all four bolts for the toggles to work. Anybody have any better ideas to prevent theft and tampering?
Buzzie

PS I will have a security camera mounted above it!

 

[MEP001]

For strength in mounting to brick or block, I would recommend epoxy and threaded rod. It will cost you about $35 for a tube of epoxy and one mixing tip, and a few bucks for 3/8" stainless rod and bolts.

 

[Buzzie8]

Thanks for your input. Two questions though:
1. When you say epoxy I'm assuming they sell epoxy in large tubes similar to silicone for caulking. Is this what you mean?
2. When you say to use threaded rod how would you put bolts on the rod? Would you drill the whole way through the wall and bolt from outside then weld or mess up the threads so they would not be easily removed or some other way?

 

[Mitch]

I think I would use a carriage bolt with the carriage head and a washer or two on the exposed end and the nut and lock nut inside the box.

 

[Dirt]

You might have to remove that box one day.

 

[MEP001]

3M makes an epoxy tube that fits in a standard caulk gun. If you're mounting to concrete you just drill and clean the holes, inject some epoxy and stick the rod in. When it cures you have a stud. In brick you need a wire mesh sold with the epoxy and tips that you put in the hole, and it holds behind the brick as well as in the hole. When you mount the box, you just put nuts inside over the studs, and it's easily removable if you need to.

 

[PaulLovesJamie]

I use concrete anchors and epoxy.
In the picture at the top of this link, I use the 3rd one from the left.
Agreed, you might have to remove it some day, and in fact I have. Angle grinder worked fine. I'd rather have to grind it off than let it be easy to remove.

 

[Buzzie8]

Paul,
I did not see the link you were referring to. Can you still post the link?
Thanks,
Buzzie

 

[Dirt]

You might have to remove that box one day.

Sorry, I thought you meant glue the box to the wall.

 

[Earl Weiss]

I prefer to Drill al the way thru the wall and use threaded rod. You can mess up or weld any exposed end. The other end is inside the box is where you attach it with lock nuts (nylon insert type). If they try to unscrew it from the exposed end, the threads just rotate. They could grind off the exposed end.