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any update??
Not yet. I went by yesterday and switched my active softener tank. It's been rainy and slow, so have not washed two cars back to back since then. It seemed to fill slightly faster, but I couldn't tell for sure. If I was two vehicles in a row and it keeps up, then the softener was the issue.
 

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Well I bypassed my water softener today and no change. Fills up fast for a few seconds then slows down. I can't think what the heck could be causing that behavior. On another note, I'm glad this came up as I found out my water was hard and I need to rebed my softeners. Still didn't work with them bypassed, so a secondary issue.
 

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Yes. I honestly don't think there is anything I have not tried. Spent over 10 hours trying to pin it down.
Did the flow stay good directly after the solenoid without any other plumbing attached?
Yep. Tried a valve from another Razor.
Did you try this valve in another razor?

One test would be to remove the guts out of the solenoid and manually turn the water on and off to see if you get the same results. Disconnect the coil if you do this to avoid burning it up during testing.

I'm not familiar with razors, is the tank filled with city pressure or a pump? When you are seeing the drop in pressure/flow, is it the whole line back to the water source? Could be a partial clog somewhere, full flow and pressure until the line empties to the partial clog, then line can't fill up fast enough, but eventually will fill up if outflow stops.
 

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Could also be a partially collapsed or kinked hose that's not easily detected from outer visual inspection.
 

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I think you have a solenoid issue since you stated the pressure is strong before the solenoid. If I were you I would just be done with it and either put a brand new complete solenoid or hook up a Jobe ball float and get rid of the solenoid all together. You would need to but a jumper wire for your high float switch.
 
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I did test the water flow with all guts of solenoid removed, and also installed a brand new solenoid, so I've tried both of those items. The hose is a solid pipe running very close to it, then a thick hose only a short distance and no kinks. Next rainy day I'm going to swap the complete solenoid with another Razor just to see. Then I can 100% rule out the solenoid if it works fine on the other.
 

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I did test the water flow with all guts of solenoid removed, and also installed a brand new solenoid, so I've tried both of those items. The hose is a solid pipe running very close to it, then a thick hose only a short distance and no kinks. Next rainy day I'm going to swap the complete solenoid with another Razor just to see. Then I can 100% rule out the solenoid if it works fine on the other.
So you have continuous full flow before the solenoid and low flow after a short period of time after the solenoid? Both with and without the guts in the solenoid? I'm trying to follow where you are having full flow and where it is dropping off after some time. Maybe worth putting inline pressure gauges to diagnose? Just throwing out ideas here.
 

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So you have continuous full flow before the solenoid and low flow after a short period of time after the solenoid? Both with and without the guts in the solenoid? I'm trying to follow where you are having full flow and where it is dropping off after some time. Maybe worth putting inline pressure gauges to diagnose? Just throwing out ideas here.
It's a very confusing situation as it's hard to pin down why the flow slows down. I'm sure I'll figure it out soon. Very rainy month here, so have not had a line of cars in a while.
 
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