Tip size for self serve

[wisheewashee]

Searched the forum but did not see this. Can anyone recommend the best "tip" to use on my self serve wand? Too much fan and it does not clean well. Too straight and it may damage paint. I have some old tips and want to replace. Ideas?

 

[Tpoppa]

2506 works well at my wash.

 

[MEP001]

I also prefer 2506 tips, and the V-spray, not the MEG. MEG tips were designed for descaling and lose their impact more than a few inches from the surface being cleaned. The -06 is pretty common - I prefer an -06 at 1200 PSI than an -07 at 1000. The customer is getting better pressure and you're using less water/chemicals. Kleen-Rite says the 3206 MEG tip is the best, but I don't like it at all. I've used washes with that tip, and too much of the presoak gets atomized and blows away. The spray is too wide for my liking.

 

[I.B. Washincars]

I like the 2506 as well.

 

[mjc3333]

2507 VV SS stainless steel tip. Do NOT use the MEG. The spray pattern is horrible. I run 1050 PSI. If you go with the VV SS tip you have to specify it by name, otherwise they will send you the MEG tip.

 

[mjc3333]

I also prefer 2506 tips, and the V-spray, not the MEG. MEG tips were designed for descaling and lose their impact more than a few inches from the surface being cleaned. The -06 is pretty common - I prefer an -06 at 1200 PSI than an -07 at 1000. The customer is getting better pressure and you're using less water/chemicals. Kleen-Rite says the 3206 MEG tip is the best, but I don't like it at all. I've used washes with that tip, and too much of the presoak gets atomized and blows away. The spray is too wide for my liking.

MEP

Did you ever use the 2507 VV tip? Did you change to the 2506? If you did, was there a difference in the 'feel' of pressure from the gun on high pressure between the 2506 and 2507 tips?

Thanks

 

[MEP001]

I feel more pressure (as in more "kick" from the gun when the trigger is pulled) with a 2506 running 1200 PSI than with a 2507 at 1000 PSI. I've used 2507 in the past at different washes, but ours now has always had 2506 because of newer city ordinances regarding water use during drought.

 

[Tpoppa]

When I took over my wash, it was setup using 4008 tips. One of my first changes was to switch to 2506. It was an immediate 30% saving in water, sewer, and chemical costs. Not one customer noticed the change.

 

[PaulLovesJamie]

I use 2507.
There was a poll thread on this a year or 2 ago: http://forum.autocareforum.com/showthread.php?t=1378

 

[Jeff_L]

I standardized on 2506 a couple of years ago at my washes. One had 2504's and the other had 2507's. No one complained about the change. However, I didn't realize their was a difference between V spray and MEG. Really never researched it, but will have to get a V spray tip and try it out.

(4008? That seems like a huge spray pattern with a lot of water loss!)

 

[Bubbles Galore]

^Same here with the "V" type tip. I have never heard of it until now, will definitely have to check it out.

 

[Randy]

1505 at 1500 PSI

 

[Earl Weiss]

Where do you guys get the tips? Part #?

 

[Jeff_L]

Where do you guys get the tips? Part #?

I just ran up to Windtrax during lunch and picked up one VeeJet to try it out. They're twice as much as the MEG.

The part number I picked up was: H1/8VV-SS2506

I'm going to try it out and compare it to my MEG 2506

 

[soapy]

I was at a carwash show once and tip manufacturer told me that for every 25% increase in water volume you use your impact or impingment as they called it doubles. So essentially a 2506 tip would have to run at 2000 psi to have the same impingment as a 2508 tip running at 1000 psi. I run 1508 tips at 1200 psi. The thing I like about the higher volume tips is that I can push mud off of floors during clean up much faster than using lower volume tips.

 

[phred113]

The MEG nozzles are made for industrial applications where accuracy and durability are required. You can decide if this applies to your wash.

If you can afford the extra water, Soapy's got the right idea for cleaning and flushing away dirt.

 

[MEP001]

The thing I like about the higher volume tips is that I can push mud off of floors during clean up much faster than using lower volume tips.

For sure, I use a 1508 tip on a 36" wand and a pump running 2000 PSI to clean the lot. I can get nearly an acre of concrete clean in about 45 minutes.

 

[MEP001]

Where do you guys get the tips? Part #?

Kleen-Rite doesn't even carry V-spray tips, although they can order them. I get them from Windtrax. There's a chart in their catalog of sizes available with the ones they stock marked.

 

[Jeff_L]

I tried out the 2506 VJet tip this morning. Just so happened I had to replace a hose and decided while I had the tools out I'll swap the tip. I compared this to a 2506 MEG tip so I'm using the same angle and orifice size.

In my opinion, which is not based on any scientific fact just perception, I didn't really notice a difference. At least not enough of a difference to justify twice the price of a MEG tip. The only thing I "think" I noticed was that the MEG tip seems to have more of it's power at each edge of the spray pattern. I know this for I use the edge to clean off hard stuff from the floor. I think I felt the VJet seemed to have a more even spray across the entire pattern. That's the only difference I could see.

For me to be convinced to invest in them, I would have to get some dry, caked on mud or grime, and use the tips side by side to see which one cuts through better.

Again, just my observations. I'm not downplaying the VJet tip or recommendations for it. Just thought I report my personal findings on the subject.

 

[rph9168]

The meg tip is supposed to be much more durable. The spray pattern or pressure really should not noticeably different.