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There is also a HUGE discrepency with some reported figures.

One site says th $1 notes cost 75 cents to produce with a 6 month life and therefore assesses a $1.50 per note in annual costs
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=83712
(not surewhere he got the 75 cent figure.


It only makes logical sense to replace the dollar note with the dollar coin - or does it?

At a cost of over 75c per note with an approximate six-month life span, the United States Treasury spends about $1.50 per annum for each linen dollar in circulation. Conversely, at a cost of about 5 cents per coin with a life span of nearly two decades (even if they were in circulation), the Treasury would spend about 1/4 of a cent per annum for each dollar coin in circulation. You do the math - it's pretty simple. We should switch to using $1 coins in a housekeeping effort to save us all a lot of taxpayer money - right?

and the govenrment office says 5.5 cents to produce.

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Q: How much does it cost to produce currency?

A: Each year, the Federal Reserve Board projects the need for new currency, which it acquires from the Department of the Treasury's Bureau of Engraving and Printing at the cost of production. The new-currency budget for 2011 is $676.1 million, and reflects the following costs per denomination:

■$1 and $2 notes -- 5.5 cents per note
■$5 and $10 notes -- 9.9 cents per note
■$20 and $50 notes --10.9 cents per note
■$100 note -- 9.9 cents per note
You can read further details on the production costs for Federal Reserve notes from the new currency budget (Off-site Link).

SOURCE: Board of Governors, FAQs (http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12771.htm) (Off-site Link)

This site says 9.6 cents per note but that includes all denominations with $1 being the lowest cost.
http://www.moneyfactory.gov/uscurrency/annualproductionfigures.html
 

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I am not opposed to the dollar coin but I am also not a fan of eliminating dollar bills in favor of the coin. If that putsme in the crackpot division, so be it.

I much prefer bill acceptors to coin acceptors and like the fact that they can take 1's, 5's, 10's and 20's. I also prefer 5 singles in my wallet to 5 dollar coins in my pocket.
I didn't say we should eliminate the dollar bill. Plus I didn't call you a crackpot unless you are Pat Crowe. Pat Crowe has called anyone promoting or even discussing the gold dollar coin every name in the book. Including me when I had a piece published about the coin. I doubt if you ever tried 5 dollar coins in your pocket. I find them very convient compared to taking out my wallet and searching for bills when I make a small purchase.

The coin is good for our industry and I resent anyone in the industry bad mouthing and working to make it fail. That also includes Trade Journal publishers who take shots at it when they are promoting and advertising credit card acceptor equipment.

The e-mail information was on Snopes at one time. There was some correspondence published that Bank employees were discussing ways to discredit the dollar coin including the In God We Trust statement.
 

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Since obama was elected, you are correct!
Yep everything was wonderful before that. Not fighting in any foreign countries, economy was great...and don't forget how we got rid of all the WMDs in Iraq.
 
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I think that I would have to agree, we have been going downhill for many years.
 

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In reality, the crap started with the stupidity and greed started with Carter's law that forced banks to loan money to people that probably couldn't repay, then Clinton, expanded the requirements, and then Freddie and Fanny started buying total crap, and Frank stopped any stopping them from buying the crap.

Anyone can find these facts if they want. It just blew up in 07/08. They are all to blame, watch the movie "Inside Job" there are no heroes.
 

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In reality, the crap started with the stupidity and greed started with Carter's law that forced banks to loan money to people that probably couldn't repay, then Clinton, expanded the requirements, and then Freddie and Fanny started buying total crap, and Frank stopped any stopping them from buying the crap.

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Bill you are so right. Before 2008 I averaged 50 closings a year. (Now less than half and only that many becuse clients with cash are buying some foreclosures). A couple clients bought houses, fixed them up and sold them. In 2002 the first 100% financing offer came across my desk. My initial reaction was "This deal will never close, no one gets 100% financing." But it did close, then another and another etc. At the closing table you would see how people buying had Car loans, credit card balances etc. (It was on their mtge apps they had to re sign.) Both my clients and i could not understand how they got the loans because it was clear that th teaser rates would ratchet up as would their real estate taxes when the properties were reassessed for the new value. Their lawyers would explain how this would happen and they should refi to fixed rates at the earliest opportunity.

I still did not understand why the banks gave them financing, but figurred these lenders had lots more money than me so they had to be smarter than me.........

I guess they were smarter since I and other taxpayers bailed them out.
 

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I wish that I had realized how many people were taking advantage of these ridiculous type of loans and I might have had the sense to get out of the market before I lost $1M+ when it crashed.

I saw those ads on TV to borrow 125% the value of their house, etc, I thought what idiot would do that. Obviously, millions did. You need to get the movie "Inside Job", it really lays it out how this started and who the crooks were, sadly no one will ever go to jail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1
 
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