So who gets a clean dry shiny car with an Inverted L auto??

[ToFarGone20]

here we go...

"this is not about putting a man on the moon, or curing hunger, this board is about getting dirt or film off of a car!!! It really is not that difficult, and there really are not that many secrets to the process"--carwashlifer

THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU PRODDING US FOR HELP?????

You change your mind more than my wife....


I can honestly tell you I use different chemicals in summer than I do in winter...based on cost and cleaning ability...maybe that will shock you....since this isn't rocket science.

 

[raisetheprice]

Hire an attendant and be done with it.

 

[carwashlifer]

Hire an attendant and be done with it.

Thanks for passing on your extensive knowledge and quick wit, as you probably already know washing cars to a high standard in a touchless auto is a bitch. So therefore it becomes way more science and art than normal carwashing (ie cloth and SS with foam brush etc.) .
But the wisdom you have imparted I will treasure always, I am sure your many customers are almost as thrilled as I!!!


thanks again

carwashlifer

 

[raisetheprice]

Thanks for passing on your extensive knowledge and quick wit, as you probably already know washing cars to a high standard in a touchless auto is a bitch. So therefore it becomes way more science and art than normal carwashing (ie cloth and SS with foam brush etc.) .
But the wisdom you have imparted I will treasure always, I am sure your many customers are almost as thrilled as I!!!


thanks again

carwashlifer

If you're that damn worried about every single car coming out of a touchless auto like it has been detailed, you're in the wrong business my friend. The amount of time that you have to spend tuning & testing all the time, you could have just paid a prep guy. I'm sure you know a little bit about that if your the King of Carwashing that you so proclaim. I've never seen a tunnel that didn't prep (that was worth a flip) and even with friction the cars don't come out detailed or even cleaned.

To quote John Goodman in The Big Lebowski – "…AND A VERY GOOD DAY TO YOU, SIR!"

 

[Waxman]

The first point I'd like to offer is that you need to get your expectations in line with reality.

This is true whether you're determining value of a touch-free car wash, conveyorized auto or detail shop hand wash. All 3 have pluses and minuses. Perceived value is where it's at for me, personally. It's what I try and focus on and that works for me. A touch free car wash offers a certain level of quality when all aspects are 'dialed in'. I don't need to state facts about water/chem. quality, wash speed, etc because they've already been discussed. These are the meat and potatoes of the touch-free side of this business. Screw up on these and quality goes down, as does customer satisfaction and perceived value.


The reason there are several types of car washes is that everyone has their own idea of 'clean' and how to arrive at that goal.

To me, the prep stuff should be left to the tunnel guys. My customers like 'touch free' and prep/towel dry is 'touching' the vehicle.

A touch free car wash is a niche and we should work within that niche.

 

[DavidM]

Carwashlifer,
You said above that touchless washing is more science and art than softtouch washing. I agree. That also means that you cannot grab a quick and easy answer from someone else to make it work. This is an art that can be developed and science that can be experimented with. We can offer suggestions of what works for us but ultimately, I believe that all operators like myself (have an inverted L that delivers a high quality cleaning) got here through trial and error. I believe the major variables have been covered, now it is time to start adjusting the variables and see what results you get - that is the science of this. You have been in the car wash business long enough by now to understand this I am sure.

(variables - machine, location, type of chemicals, titrations, speeds, dwell times, distance of machine from vehicle, application method, water quality, blower type, undercarriage blasters - all of this will effect your achievement of a clean, shiny, dry car.)

I am still put off by how quickly you dismiss the information you were given and I notice that you do not seem to be a contributor to any other discussions or providing anything useful, only trying take from this forum and then not being satisfied that no one is taking the time to provide you with the answers in exactly the format you are looking for.

 

[RykoPro]

"Lifer" must have gave up trying to make his touchless clean as well his many tunnels, too bad, his highly valued opinion based on his many years of near perfect car washing will be missed on this forum.