Air shammie

[MudMoney]

Is there enough difference in drying performance to upgrade to the super air shammee 2 considering that its $400 more than the basic model.Replacement motor is almost $1500 vs $ 54.00 each on other model.Your thoughts ?

 

[mjwalsh]

Is there enough difference in drying performance to upgrade to the super air shammee 2 considering that its $400 more than the basic model.Replacement motor is almost $1500 vs $ 54.00 each on other model.Your thoughts ?

I wonder if there is any way of knowing if either the expensive motor or the less cost motors will ever be discontinued because the OEMs decide they don't sell enough of them? Kind of a negative thought but it seems it is something to consider on your choice.

If they are all motors made by more than one manufacturers in terms of similar enough specifications & physical size & mounting ... it is even less likely to have that as a "down the road" issue.

 

[Earl Weiss]

Went with the more expensive model. Aside from performance it seemed the lifespan was supposed to be a whole lot better.

 

[pgrzes]

I have air shamee's and air shamee II's. The air volume doesnt seem a whole lot different, I wouldnt upgrade my air shamee's. But I would recommend going with the 3 phase motors if purchasing new units. I would think these motors and blower units will cost less to run and outlast the regular motors to offset cost. The 3 phase units are also much quieter.

 

[MudMoney]

I currently have the air shamee and was going to add on to other bays.I'm on 3 phase with the others .So looks like I will save some money and stick with the standard model unless others here give a different point of view.

 

[soonermajic]

I'm confused. So the regular Air Shammee comes with 2 different types of motors?

 

[OurTown]

I'm confused. So the regular Air Shammee comes with 2 different types of motors?

The regular Air Shammee and the Super Air Shammee II are totally different animals. The standard one uses three vac motors using 115 volts or can be ordered for 230 volts single phase. The Super uses a three phase motor directly attached to a blower housing.

 

[OurTown]

Another thing to consider on whether or not to go with the Super is the cost of additional equipment to install it. It requires a motor starter that can be into the hundreds of dollars with enclosure and thermals. Three phase breakers can be $100-$200 depending on the type and take up more space in your breaker box. Some people may tie into the high pressure pump circuit because it won't be used at the same time as the Shammee but we decided to isolate it with its own breaker.

 

[soonermajic]

I have air shamee's and air shamee II's. The air volume doesnt seem a whole lot different, I wouldnt upgrade my air shamee's. But I would recommend going with the 3 phase motors if purchasing new units. I would think these motors and blower units will cost less to run and outlast the regular motors to offset cost. The 3 phase units are also much quieter.

So, I need clarification: Can you put 3 phase motors on the regular Air shamme? If not, your statements seem to contradict themselves....? Or, am I missing something? I am about to install some used Air shammees, that just had the brushes replaced.

 

[soonermajic]

what did you guys use to anchor your Air Shammees to the walls?

 

[MudMoney]

I went thru cinder block wall, takes a 12 " long hammer drill bit.

 

[OurTown]

So, I need clarification: Can you put 3 phase motors on the regular Air shamme? If not, your statements seem to contradict themselves....? Or, am I missing something

I don't think you can upgrade the motors to three phase so what pgrzes most likely meant was change out an entire unit that is three phase. We mounted our unit and boom with through bolts.

 

[pgrzes]

Same here, through cinder block wall, use all stainless hardware. 1/2" allthread, nylock nuts and washers.
On my new 3 hp 3 phase units, I put those in the attic. I made my own control panel, found some hinged lid boxes on ebay for $20( I bought a few to have around) I bought contactors also on ebay $25 each, I got same ones I have for my bay pumps, no overloads necessary. And built the control box my self and my helper and I installed everything in a day or so. Most difficult part was doing the conduits to everything. Figuring I saved over $2000 doing it myself, and its the kind of project I kind of enjoy doing. Also on this setup we pulled power from our source power for our bay pumps. I know some electricians dont like doing this, it was how it was recommended to me from several others and how we set up our previous units and have never had any problems.

 

[pgrzes]

I have a location that has the 3 motor version, and another location that we just installed the 3 hp 3 phase motors. They are not really interchangeable. I recommend the 3 phase units, a bit more upfront expense, but less maintenance and should cost less to run.

 

[Greg Pack]

Another thing to consider on whether or not to go with the Super is the cost of additional equipment to install it. It requires a motor starter that can be into the hundreds of dollars with enclosure and thermals. Three phase breakers can be $100-$200 depending on the type and take up more space in your breaker box. Some people may tie into the high pressure pump circuit because it won't be used at the same time as the Shammee but we decided to isolate it with its own breaker.

Yeah, I just tied into my pump wiring. I had to turn up my overloads a bit but otherwise no problems. It saved a lot of trouble and hassle over installing new circuitry.

 

[OurTown]

Ours is marked 4.65HP on the motor plate. At 208 volts it is actually drawing 14.7 amps under full load putting it closer to 6 HP.