Climate Change E Mails

[ted mcmeekin]

I'm sure you guys are following this disgusting unprofessional crap by the "warming club". Through yesterday, only FOX carried the story. I wanted to throw up when I saw that a prof from my almamater Penn State was center stage on this hoax (Michael E. Mann)

I have written to the President of Penn State and was assured his behavior is under investigation.

Just a sample below--understand another 100 megabytes yet to come. UN meeting might be a little tense.

Ted

http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Cli...-server-hacked-revealing-documents-and-emails

 

[rph9168]

Here is a little more information.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200...retain-controversial-e-mails/?test=latestnews

As superficial as Al Gore is it is obvious that the research he claimed to do on this before making it his cause (and making millions off it) was not very thorough. I guess he felt creating the internet was enough work.

Another case of Chicken Little crying the sky is falling.

 

[Whale of a Wash]

Al Gore is not making millions off this, i thought he was worth over a billion now, and it isn;t from his 500th ranked tv channel (Current). Everything in life is always about money or Sex.

 

[rph9168]

The Nobel prize he won for this was over 1 million dollars. Add to that the money he got for the movie rights, royalties and speaking engagements and he made a bundle of this issue.

 

[mac]

It's been almost two weeks since this news and still nothing in the socalled mainstream media. The scientists involved and freaking Al Gore refuse to debate this. Yet if the climate conference has its way, they will establish a world government to rape us some more. I'm stocking up on ammo and planting my garden. I can catch enough fish to live on.

 

[Reds]

The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
By Thomas Jefferson, 11/13/1787 in a letter to William Smith - I agree with Jefferson & Mac

 

[MEP001]

Unless the people who supposedly sent these emails come forward and admit they're authentic (and that would be incredibly stupid), we'll never know if they are or aren't. There's not likely to be any investigation into that since they were illegally obtained.

 

[rph9168]

The authenticity of the e-mails has not been denied by the so-called scientists involved. They say the information is taken out of context but that is as hard to believe as the claim that they did not tampered with the data. This charge has been leveled before from other sources. The mainstream media refuses to investigate probably for fear that they may find out what the real deal is. They are too busy trying to disprove information in Sarah Palin's new book.

 

[ted mcmeekin]

The breach in their damn is widening;;;Here is quote from a more responsible scientist from same institue:

A more thoughtful response to the emails comes from Mike Hulme, another climate scientist at the University of East Anglia, as reported by a New York Times blogger:

"This event might signal a crack that allows for processes of re-structuring scientific knowledge about climate change. It is possible that some areas of climate science has become sclerotic. It is possible that climate science has become too partisan, too centralized. The tribalism that some of the leaked emails display is something more usually associated with social organization within primitive cultures; it is not attractive when we find it at work inside science."

The response from the defenders of Mr. Mann and his circle has been that even if they did disparage doubters and exclude contrary points of view, theirs is still the best climate science. The proof for this is circular. It's the best, we're told, because it's the most-published and most-cited—in that same peer-reviewed literature. The public has every reason to ask why they felt the need to rig the game if their science is as indisputable as they claim.

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Ted

 

[mac]

Science is not about consensus. For many years everyone thought the world was flat and the sun went around the earth. That was consensus. The fact that the main people involved will not debate this or release the raw data tells it all. It was only 30 years ago that they were warning about another ice age.

 

[rph9168]

It appears that we will never know that facts on global warming thanks to the group of "scientists" that originated the claim. They have destroyed the original data so no one will be able to verify their "research".

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,577746,00.html