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Check out these articles from PC&D;

Case study: Ipswich Car Wash
From Volume 31, Issue 12 - December 2007
www.carwash.com

Ground Breaking (section)
From Volume 30, Issue 11 - November 2006

Ipswich, MA
Ken Oullette, owner of the new Ipswich Car Wash, hopes to turn rainwater into profit. The soon-to-open wash uses a system that collects rainwater in tanks to be used to wash cars and recharge the nearby wetlands.

The rainwater harvesting system, designed by engineer Larry Graham of Graham Associates, uses impervious surfaces to drain rainwater into 60,000-gallon tanks underneath the washing bays. The system, said to be the first in the U.S., cost in excess of $1.5 million and took two years to design and build.

The in-bay automatic carwash will use 50 to 60 gallons of water on each vehicle, only eight gallons of which will come from the town water supply. If there is period of low rainfall, Ouellette said there is a possibility he might have to rely on more town water.

If you do some additional research, you will find that there are other and less expensive ways to incorporate rainwater harvesting at a carwash operation.

1) Rooftop collection - relatively inexpensive to build and to filter and store the water but much less water will be collected.
2) Surface collection - this approach involves intercepting rainfall from the property's surface water runoff system. This is more expensive to build (storage tank, network, etc.) and filter (to remove debris and oil) but more water will be collected.

The water provided from a rooftop system could be used in a number of ways to supplement city water. A surface system would provide far greater volumes but it requires a systematic approach in the overall design of the carwash similar to the approach that one should use in designing a reclaim system.

Hope this helps

Bob Roman
www.carwashplan.com
 

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Bob..

Do you know of any companies that are installing these for carwash owners.. Or any designs out there on the web for do it yourselfers?

I am getting hammered with sewer costs.. This would suppliment my wash very well...

I am open to anything in terms of conservation and saving some $$$

Especially after last winter.
I collect rainwater: Under-ground rainwater tank connected to the roof with a submersible float switch pump. If there is water in the tank it gets pumped up into a little tank inside the plant room. This tank has a town water float valve sitting in the middle of the tank and another float switch sitting at the top of the tank to turn off the submersible pump in the underground tank. During rain the water gets pumped right up to the top leaving the town water valve totally under water. If there is no rain water level drops down until the town water float valve sets in and lets town water get into the tank. From this tank it gets pumped into to the recycling tank. Very simple and it works.
Cheers JustClean.

Forget to mention I also connected the R/O waste to the rainwater tank and installed a tap that I can hose my yard for free during rain.
 
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Good topic. And a good idea. My company has a system in permitting right now to collect rainwater for a boat washing site. The boat storage facility has a two acre building for dry storage. We're on the FL gulf coast, and you just don't leave a boat in salt water. The building has about 15 large downspouts that direct rainwatre to the ground. We are going to use six of these to fill 5,000 gallon tanks. The water will be treated to keep it clean and fresh smelling and used to wash the salt water off the boats. I designed it with the help of a well known reclaim company. Cost under 100K and should pay for itself in a few years. Less with tax breaks. The issue with doing this at a carwash is that most don't have a two acre roof to collect the water, and most would have a hard time putting six 5000 gallon tanks somewhere. They are huge, about 9 feet wide and 14 feet tall. As usual with ideas that make sense, the government is doing its best to find issues with it. Will let you know how it does.
 
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