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Does anyone know where the relay is inside? The vacuum is stuck on.
 

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Turn the power off to the vac. I would keep it off for 5 minutes and then turn it back on.
Your power to the vacs are probably in your pump room.
 

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Coleman Fresh n Vac uses a mercury relay (inside the cabinet).
Unusual for a mercury relay to stick ON.

The 1034R timer might be the culprit...
The Blue/Black wire on the larger 10-wire plug is the 24Vac timed output.
Pull the 10-wire plug from the timer...Vac should quit running.
Plug it back in...if the vac starts...repair/replace the timer.
 

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It's a fresh n vac but the freakin thing still won't shut off with no power. The programmer is busted but I don't know what's going on.
 

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I shut power to whole building which did trick. Restarted after 5 min and no change
 

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Thank you for being so patient here I appreciate your help. I can't say thank you enough.
 

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Can you post some pictures of this busted controller?
 

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The coil on the mercury relay isn't hooked up. If the vac runs in this state, the relay pretty much has to be stuck closed. I guess some wires beyond the relay could be melted together, but that should be obvious. Remove one of the wires from the top of the relay and see if it shuts off. If it does, you pretty much have it isolated to the relay. Be sure to turn off the power before messing with those top wires. At least one of them will be HOT.
 

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So where is the relay? Is it in that picture? I would think it is the black in the upper left
 

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On a side note do you know what this is called? It is for my scrub n vac and broke off . It had a tiny plastic tube to It
 

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The coil on the mercury relay isn't hooked up.
Not just the coil, there is nothing hooked to the relay at all, neither 24V nor main voltage. There's a white wire with a spade terminal and a screw stuck in it just dangling in front of the relay. For the vac motors to run, they must have been connected directly to 120V power. Maybe someone hooked them to the live power meant for the dome lights, then started unhooking everything trying to get the motors to not run. This guy needs to call a technician who knows what they're doing.
 

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I agree that he needs to get someone else to fix that for him. How can you tell that there are no wires on the top terminals? I assumed they were hidden by that wire bundle.
 

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How can you tell that there are no wires on the top terminals?
I might be wrong, now that I think about it they may come in from the side. I was thinking they'd come straight out the top end. Even so, it does look like the lower of the two screws is backed all the way out.
 
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