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Jimmy Buffett

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I'm thinking of yanking my wheel scrubbers. I have had nothing but trouble for the past year and they have been turned off about half the time.
Somebody has hit 1 of them twice in the past week and I am just worn out with trying to keep the damn things running. Anybody think that is a really bad idea? I have a Ryko Softgloss btw.
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You wouldn't print a lot of the words that I would use tonight!
 

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I too despise my wheel scrubbers on my Soft-gloss, Ryko offered me to remove them and install the new rotary wheel blasters but I haven't seen these work in action at a real site vs the engineering bay so real-time results will determine the purchase ($$$)
 

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Had a customer last week. Nice Mustang GT, custom striping. Wheel scrubbers at another wash (not mine) malfunctioned and tore off the stripes.:(
 

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The rotary wheel blasters are the way to go. They work really well in conjunction with a good tire cleaner and they put on a great show. Hands down, the way to go! They also can do the whole rocker panel. It's funny that Coleman and Mark VII are putting friction wheel scrubbers on their touch-free units and Ryko has mostly been putting touch-free side blasters on their friction units. It almost seems like a Steven Wright joke.
 

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Friction anything in the bay negates the touchfree concept, IMO. Yes agree.
 

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The rotary wheel blasters are the way to go. They work really well in conjunction with a good tire cleaner and they put on a great show. Hands down, the way to go! They also can do the whole rocker panel. It's funny that Coleman and Mark VII are putting friction wheel scrubbers on their touch-free units and Ryko has mostly been putting touch-free side blasters on their friction units. It almost seems like a Steven Wright joke.
How much do they cost? Is it possible to run into them?
 

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I don't have the price but it would be worth looking into I know some operators have wanted to put these in but the price ryko likes to put on their products sometimes is the end of conversations with them.
 
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Friction anything in the bay negates the touchfree concept, IMO. Yes agree.
Don't agree. Unless every wash selection on your menu has the scrubbers I see nothing wrong with it. I advertise a touchless wash and can fullfill the promise, but I also have wheel scrubbers if they choose. McDonald's advertised two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun for years, but customers didn't expect a Big Mac if they ordered a hamburger.
 

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I have scrubbers on JCC equipment in one bay and no scrubber in the other. Scrubber is only offered on the top wash. Package with scrubber outsells every other package in either bay by 10%. People will wait in line 4 or 5 deep rather than go to the shorter line in the non scrub bay. I charge $1 extra for the scrubber package. And JCC WW2.0 has rocker blaster nozzles that can be programmed into any pass in any package. Wheel Scrubber adds just under 10k per year to my sales. But, they do add to my my maintenance expenses (hoses, motors, etc). My wash is touchfree, but a scrubber is not a scrubber unless it has brushes. Otherwise it is a wheel blaster, which may do an equally good job. Downside to scrubber is that if the eyes pick up debris and miscalculate where the wheels are the brush can come out in the middle of the car. I have seen this happen twice, luckily with no damage to the car. I also had a car move while the brush was out doing the wheel and bend it all up and then drive away.
 
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I spoke to the guy who does my tech work. He is in the process of installing a Softgloss in a wash that he bought. He said that he is not installing the wheel scrubbers. He did indicate that other people's wheel scrubbers helped him pay for his wash....
 

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Our salesman sells wheel scrubs with almost every wash. We have very few problems with them but we do the preventive maintenance on most of them.
 

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Although I have had some issues with the JC wheel scrubber, I would not buy another one without the scrubber. It requires some regular maintenance and occasional parts replaced, but what doesn't?
 

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Basic Monthly Preventative Maintenance for Ryko Rollover Wheel scrub:
Lubricate the white wheels, track and wheel bolt shafts
Lubricate air cylinder shafts
Check wheel bolt tightness
Check gearbox oil level
Tighten wheel brush hub set screws onto reducer (gearbox) shaft
Tighten wheel brush to hub bolts
Adjust proximity switches and target plates
Tighten mounting bolts
Check motor amp draw
Check wheel scrub air regulator pressure
 

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I was in Sevierville, TN this past weekend and took my wifes car through a JC Water Wizard with wheel scrubbers. I was very impressed with the looks of the wheels after the wash.
 

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I too despise my wheel scrubbers on my Soft-gloss, Ryko offered me to remove them and install the new rotary wheel blasters but I haven't seen these work in action at a real site vs the engineering bay so real-time results will determine the purchase ($$$)
We have a few of the wheel blasters and they work great, see if Ryko can retrofit the new turbo nozzles on the front of the gantry. Its run by a cat pump and we even modified it to do a high pressure under car. The customer was replacing a PDQ with a Softgloss and missed the high pressure undercar of the PDQ. We used a Radius high pressure under car manifold and a couple of Lexair valves with the Cat pump to get into the 1000 PSI range.
 

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We have a few of the wheel blasters and they work great, see if Ryko can retrofit the new turbo nozzles on the front of the gantry. Its run by a cat pump and we even modified it to do a high pressure under car. The customer was replacing a PDQ with a Softgloss and missed the high pressure undercar of the PDQ. We used a Radius high pressure under car manifold and a couple of Lexair valves with the Cat pump to get into the 1000 PSI range.
Any idea what it would cost to convert to the wheel blasters on a soft gloss? Ballpark figure? I have the wheel scrubbers, but they have been turned off ever since I bought the wash almost a year ago. I haven't received a single complaint, but I would rather have something that cleans the wheels if I can.
 

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Don't agree. Unless every wash selection on your menu has the scrubbers I see nothing wrong with it. I advertise a touchless wash and can fullfill the promise, but I also have wheel scrubbers if they choose. McDonald's advertised two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun for years, but customers didn't expect a Big Mac if they ordered a hamburger.
I agree 100%. I also have a sign up advertising wheel scrubber that states "counter rotating wheel brushes" and warns low riders not to choose the wheel scrubber option. They can get the exact same wash without wheel scrub for $1 less. I have the wheelscrub in 1 of 2 IBA's. 62% of my customers choose the wheelscrub in the bay that offers it. Although it is expensive I am considering installing it in the other bay.
 
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