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8% CAP is great but frankly a meaningless comp as the related numbers (asking price, gross sales) are necessary to make it a valid data point. If the gross revenue is low (say $100K) you can easily have a 8 CAP if the land & building is worth more than the carwash business. Maybe mindsets are changing or you have a super location. This new listing is asking for a 4.86% CAP so maybe valuations for non tunnel carwashes is improving

 

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8% CAP is great but frankly a meaningless comp as the related numbers (asking price, gross sales) are necessary to make it a valid data point. If the gross revenue is low (say $100K) you can easily have a 8 CAP if the land & building is worth more than the carwash business. Maybe mindsets are changing or you have a super location. This new listing is asking for a 4.86% CAP so maybe valuations for non tunnel carwashes is improving

Guessing this is 1 of Autecs "mini-tunnels"?
 

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Well, thoughts on their setup & success? Tire Shine looks to be in it to. But dayummm $3.5 million??!!!!!😯😬
 

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Well, thoughts on their setup & success? Tire Shine looks to be in it to. But dayummm $3.5 million??!!!!!😯😬
The Mid-Atlantic Carwash Association visited them a few years ago just after they had opened their doors. It is an impressive building and they put a lot of thought into it. Hard to say if the ask is right or not, depends on their gross revenue. The listing is lite on meaningful details.
 

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The Mid-Atlantic Carwash Association visited them a few years ago just after they had opened their doors. It is an impressive building and they put a lot of thought into it. Hard to say if the ask is right or not, depends on their gross revenue. The listing is lite on meaningful details.
They need 200cpd @ $12avg
Pic was of a beautiful day, & zero customers. No way u can avg 200 cpd & NOBODY be there on great weather day = No Go.
 

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They need 200cpd @ $12avg
Pic was of a beautiful day, & zero customers. No way u can avg 200 cpd & NOBODY be there on great weather day = No Go.

Based on the cap rate they are probably not doing half that and should have built a single IBE or just a double IBA. Asking about a million too much in my opinion. I doubt anyone could get a loan on that unless they put a boat ton down and then why would you do that?
 

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Based on the cap rate they are probably not doing half that and should have built a single IBE or just a double IBA. Asking about a million too much in my opinion. I doubt anyone could get a loan on that unless they put a boat ton down and then why would you do that?
No idea on the financials. They are located in a busy part of VA, next to a large gas station, and have been pushing their membership programs from day one plus the wash offers free central vacs like a tunnel. I think the bays are 60' so they can process more cars than a normal IBA. It is a big ask but really comes down to the gross revenue - who knows maybe they have a very solid recurring monthly revenue. The couple who started the place are super nice.
 

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Great looking car wash. 20% down and 2.9 Million amortized at 7% for 20 years the payment is $22,500 per Month. Plus it will have to reloaded at least once during that time. But if the wash is grossing 65-70K per Month an investor could argue a quick enough return on their investment capital.

GIM doesn't take into account financing terms- a good reason to use it no more than a quick sanity check.
 

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Greg, that's pretty much what i said. You just said it better. Ha.
Still, have to wash OVER TWO HUNDRED cars per day in a dbl iBA.
But Roz, you're correct also. It's a much faster iBA, & 200 is attainable. But they better have more than 2 cars total on beautiful days.
 
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