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They were having supply issues after COVID, and a lot of their products were very delayed. It could be a mistake on Sonny's end, but every IDX item except the AT411E vacuum timer shows out of stock on Kleen-Rite's site.
We’ll, looks like I’ll be staying with the relays. No one has the IDX multiplex controller, they said leadtime on it could be several months.
I can get all the relays I need! Easy decision now!
 

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I have not tried these, someone on here said he did and he's had some failures, perhaps he put load through them but I would only use them to trigger another relay to take the load.


They're cheap and compact, and the relay element can be replaced for a couple dollars if it fails. They would go along well with this relay.


Edit: Here's something on the same site as the time delay relay, looks promising and also very affordable:

 

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I have not tried these, someone on here said he did and he's had some failures, perhaps he put load through them but I would only use them to trigger another relay to take the load.


They're cheap and compact, and the relay element can be replaced for a couple dollars if it fails. They would go along well with this relay.


Edit: Here's something on the same site as the time delay relay, looks promising and also very affordable:

Thanks, I’ve always used the Omron cube relay, Just a basic 24 V, normally open, latching relay. They’re not very expensive and I rarely ever change one!
 

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We have used the ginsan GS16 D, my old favorite for larger sites with 12 inputs. The new version doesn’t have more inputs than the IDX, tho . I have had good luck with the IDX. We had one go out recently when we had a big water leak, but it did not get wet tho must of been humidity. If you are wiling to do all the wiring I would do relays. They are indestructible.
 

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Thanks, I’ve always used the Omron cube relay, Just a basic 24 V, normally open, latching relay. They’re not very expensive and I rarely ever change one!
That's a good relay, a bit overkill for just isolating voltage and not at all compact. I like the DIN style because I can wire them sitting at a desk and just snap the whole array onto the rail. I used to use this one along with the base, but they've gotten too expensive so I've been considering different ones for the next project.

 
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We have used the ginsan GS16 D, my old favorite for larger sites with 12 inputs.
I forgot about that one, IMO it's a better unit than the IDX. I don't think I've ever replaced a bad one.
 

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We have used the ginsan GS16 D, my old favorite for larger sites with 12 inputs. The new version doesn’t have more inputs than the IDX, tho . I have had good luck with the IDX. We had one go out recently when we had a big water leak, but it did not get wet tho must of been humidity. If you are wiling to do all the wiring I would do relays. They are indestructible.
I’ll probably just stay with the relays. I don’t mind wiring them, I’ve done it before.
 

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Another plus of those automation direct ones, and probably other din style relays, is the jumper bars, so you don't need a thousand small pieces of wire when wiring up a relay bank
 

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Another plus of those automation direct ones, and probably other din style relays, is the jumper bars, so you don't need a thousand small pieces of wire when wiring up a relay bank
I need to remember to use those on my next project. It sure would make things easy to sit down and bridge them all together. The last couple times I rewired a wash I had to cut and strip about a hundred short pieces of wire to jumper them.
 

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Those jumper bars would be a good idea. I’d probably do something like that but I’ve already got the jumper wire harnesses with the crimp style plug-in spades on them . I’ll just pull them off the old relays, check all the crimps on them, and just reuse the wires.
 
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