I'm seeing new owners getting into the business, and mostly they are doing OK. These are people who are buying washes as a short sale or a bankruptcy. They may not be making a whole bunch of money, but they aren't losing money. Three recent examples: 1. A six bay self serve with 2 automatics. Original owner had around 2.3 million, new owner got it for 700K. 2. A five self serve and one auto. Original owner had around 800K in it. New owner got it for 330K. 3. A four bay self serve. Original owner had around 700K. New owner got it for around 230K. None of these three were in the business before, and it looks like they all did just fine. When, or if, the economy turns around, they'll be doing nicely.