D&S had there new autos at the ICA show and no one has posted about them, does that mean they looked really good or really bad. Did anyone else have any new autos there and how did they look? I thought there would be alot of scuttlebut about the show and there has been almost none. Washworld has changed there Razor and not the first word. What gives?
New D&S Automatics
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cleaning up mud
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First of all, D&S with their new 5000 gantry said, 2 weeks delivery, (no problem) We have had ours ordered for 5 weeks, paying interest on the money with nothing to show! It might not be their fault but they shouldnt guarantee it if they cant live up to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whale of a Wash
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The show was good, not very many people-- so good to inspect things. The d and s was there . Not sure about them- The gantry the spinners, all the things i couldn't wait to get rid of on my nu star comet, are on the machine. It probably washes great with all the zero degree spinners, but they scare older people, and the gantry causes too many customers vertigo, when i had a gantry. I won't brag my vector up as i would like to re-engineer it alot also, but would probably today buy a PDQ laser, and be easy on customers, washes decent, easy on repairs, and easier on me. The belanger team is got the new Kondor out , but seems to me to be trying to reinvent the wheel every couple years, instead of making the wheel better-easier to fix.
captain cw
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I thought the Kondor was pretty sexy looking. Don't know about maintenance or wash quality, but liked the show.
The new D&S units looked pretty flimsy to me. I expected them to be cheaper, because they looked cheaper, but they were quite a bit more than their old 5000 unit.
Stone soap had an "affordable" touch free at around 40k. I wouldn't give 20k for it.
TSS was still one of the busiest booths at the show, thus proving that marketing is still a top priority. I know it is for me. I'd buy everything in their booth, if I could afford it.
I thought that Istabols booth looked great, but I'm still not a fan of three brush rollovers. To slow for my busy days. Five brush is a lot faster.
The new D&S units looked pretty flimsy to me. I expected them to be cheaper, because they looked cheaper, but they were quite a bit more than their old 5000 unit.
Stone soap had an "affordable" touch free at around 40k. I wouldn't give 20k for it.
TSS was still one of the busiest booths at the show, thus proving that marketing is still a top priority. I know it is for me. I'd buy everything in their booth, if I could afford it.
I thought that Istabols booth looked great, but I'm still not a fan of three brush rollovers. To slow for my busy days. Five brush is a lot faster.
DiamondWash
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I thought Stone Soap just sold chemicals?
DiamondWash
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TSS is a car-wash owners marketing playground at: http://www.tsscws.com/
captain cw
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It looks like Stone Soap is trying to add something new to the market. I'm guessing they don't manufacture it, but are just representing it for some small out of country manufacturer. I'd be curious to know who makes it. I was referred to an Asian woman on the show floor to tell me more about it. English was most definitely her second language.
I was told the unit is made in China. It applies only a presoak and drying agent. The salesperson also told me the unit was designed for a car dealership or rental car agency. I wonder why they would have it at a car wash show if that is the case.
captain cw
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Chinese? That code for cwap.
pitzerwm
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Keep in mind that in the 50's Japan was "China" and everything was cwap. Today they are #3 in labor cost and make some the best products/electronics and optics in the world.
captain cw
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As soon as I typed that I knew I'd hear about it. . Korea has also gone through the same economic development. I think Taiwan is now generating "some" quality products, but without any form of quality control mainland china is not there yet. For my dollar they'll have to improve quite a bit. Sorry for the cwack. Got a little to much Archie bunker in me.
. Korea has also gone through the same economic development. I think Taiwan is now generating "some" quality products, but without any form of quality control mainland china is not there yet. For my dollar they'll have to improve quite a bit. Sorry for the cwack. Got a little to much Archie bunker in me.
pitzerwm
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No problem, Cap, the truth is the truth. This just shows how hard it is to live down a reputation, whether accidental or real.
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DiamondWash
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For the few that didn't get to attend the show what is this new unit you speak of? is it just a new improved Odyssey?
If you find a video of either one post the sight so I can check it out. My distributor was discribing the way it works and it is has a different measure system.It sounds really good. I would like to watch one operate.
Bucksavage
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D&S Automatic
I looked at the D&S and spoke with a rep at the show. I was impressed with the machine. It had an extremely small footprint and the control panel was tiny and easy to use.
Nobody has one in my area so I havent seen it in action, but I will definately consider one when I need a new IBA.
I looked at the D&S and spoke with a rep at the show. I was impressed with the machine. It had an extremely small footprint and the control panel was tiny and easy to use.
Nobody has one in my area so I havent seen it in action, but I will definately consider one when I need a new IBA.
Here are the videos on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upsiIHub63o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjOARjBCHzk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upsiIHub63o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjOARjBCHzk&feature=related
The new iQ is Unlike anything that D&S has ever built. These machines are something to see. The 3/D imaging used to measure is really cool. "No guiderails" we questioned and a demonstration proved this machine really does Not require them 'cause centering in the bay is no longer an issue. The demonstration positioned a car angled in the Washbay. Results, equal/ballanced friction on all points of the Car. Impressive... I have seen the machine performing in St. Louis and liked what I saw. Be on the lookout for these units.
