My Razor is acting up and I can't seem to figure it out. The last few days it will periodically quit spraying through the arch. When a customer would call and complain I would go back and watch the camera and it would be doing dry passes on presoak. Today a couple of times it went through most of the cycles fine but after rain X it was suppose to do high pressure rinse and it went around the car dry followed by spot free with nothing coming out. So it does it on high and low pressure passes. I took the change over solenoid apart on the carriage and cleaned it out tonight and ran high pressure through it with the plungers removed to make sure there was no trash in it. (Tech support thought maybe trash was keeping it from switching over which might be making the pump dead head). I put it back together and let a car go through, it did two passes of presoak and then high pressure arch came on but when the arch got to the driver's side mirror it just quit spraying but the pump was still running. I ran to the pump room and the pressure gauge was about 1400 when it is usually 1200psi. I went back to the Bay and the arch switched to the flex pods to apply high pressure wax and it sprayed fine and finished up the wash with spot free fine. Tech support is kind of stumped on this. I shut the wash down till I can figure it out. Anyone have any ideas?
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I would escalate the call up the Tech Support chain as WW is fairly good at finding a person there with knowledge or experience to solve the issue. The symptoms do sound like some trash is floating in your line somewhere - is the issue always on the same pass? How repeatable is the issue?
One idea to look at and discuss with WW (I have a Razor too). You can run the Razor in a dry test mode, wondering if there is an electrical issue somewhere that places the Razor into that test mode now and then (ie a faulty relay or circuit somewhere that has not totally gone but is on the verge of going)?
One idea to look at and discuss with WW (I have a Razor too). You can run the Razor in a dry test mode, wondering if there is an electrical issue somewhere that places the Razor into that test mode now and then (ie a faulty relay or circuit somewhere that has not totally gone but is on the verge of going)?
DiamondWash
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Did you check the S.A Solenoid on the pumpstand for trash or possibly weak voltage?. Maybe the solenoid is needing to be replaced, but then again that wouldn't help with the low pressure issue your having though.
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I took the manifold apart yesterday and I found the scrubby pad in the high pressure check valve. I cleaned it out, checked all the low pressure and spot free check valves, and replaced the scrubby pad. There was no scrubby pad left where it should be. The only scrubby I could find was the little bit that was in the High Pressure Check Valve. Im not sure if it deteriorated or if its lodged somewhere. I also took the high pressure lines apart in sections and ran the pump for several minutes hoping to flush out any trash but I did not see any evidence of any. This time I took the change over valve completely off the carriage and took it apart and couldn't find any trash in it. I checked all the bay boxes and the coils on the two changeover valves to check for loose wiring but couldn't find any. I opened the wash back up yesterday when I got done and I didn't get any calls with people having problems. So the only problem I found was the scrubby in the High Pressure check valve. Not sure if this could cause my problem.
It was not the scrubby pad in the HP check valve. A lady just called, no presoak, no hp rinse. I sent her back through and it worked fine. Going to replace the stem on the changeover valve and see if that does it.
DiamondWash
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What's this "scrubby pad" that you are talking about? can you take a picture of it and post it or send it to me. There shouldn't be a "scrubby pad" in a check valve.
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There is a scrubby pad like you clean pots and pans with inside the ss pipe. Its what makes the chemical foam going onto the car.
There is a scrubby pad like you clean pots and pans with inside the ss pipe. Its what makes the chemical foam going onto the car.
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DiamondWash
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Interesting....and it's such in a location that replacing it looks like so much fun.
pgrzes
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There should be a pin inside that pipe to keep the foamer pad in place. At least in my High Velocities there is. Its just odd that it is a random event?? Would lead me to believe a valve or solenoid is sticking randomly. If something was lodged somewhere you would think it would be more consistent. Let me guess? Washworld tech said "first time I ever heard that one???" I love them, they are great, but I hear that a lot when I call! I always call them back when I figure it out and tell them "now it wont be the first time anymore!!"
I would try swapping a couple relays around see if problem changes. Swap the relays associated with the changeover valve. Check all wiring connections from PLC to relays for loose wires. I did have a check valve let loose once and caused intermittent blockage in the line.
