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DiamondWash

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I have had the same 3/8" wire-braid hoses for my s.s from the pump to bay boom for many years but considering the corrosion that happens over time inside of them I am going to replace them, now here's the question: would it be wise to replace with 3/8" stainless steel piping versus conventional 3/8" wire-braid hoses? I know the price will be a hurdle for stainless but what are your thoughts and have you done that conversion?.
 

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I have done that conversion to a few of my bays. Removes a variable when troubleshooting pressure issues and such, as you no longer wonder if it's the hose clogging up. However, I'm still using hose from pump to trough, 10-15' or so, then stainless run down the trough. I didn't do 100% as I'm not that skilled in bending pipe. No regrets.
 

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I would upgrade to 1/2 inch with what ever you choose from pump to boom. You will have less friction lose and it is easier on your pumps.
 

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Has anyone had their stainless steel accidently freeze hard? I am thinking that a really bad freeze could enlarge the inner & outer diameter & even possibly expand & split the tubing open???
 

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Back when I was an equipment supplier guy, we always used 3/8” stainless steel tubing for self-serve installations. The installers used simple hand-held tubing benders to custom install each facility. The tubing terminated near the pumping station and above each bay’s roof/ceiling penetration.

Inside the poly-iso insulated plumbing trough, the tubing was secured with CushNClamps (sp?) and UniStrut on about 6-foot spacing. The same materials were used to secure the tubing to the engine room walls.

Each tube was coupled and terminated with SS compression fittings…that’s the expensive part of the package! The ends were fitted with 3/8” compression x 3/8” MPT fittings. This allowed for the use of less expensive connections to the pump and boom hoses…and for installation of 3/8” check valves, tees, etc.

My 8-bay was equipped in this manner shortly after taking ownership in 1993. The stainless tubing was never an issue. The tubing inside the insulated trough, has withstood several -20F assaults.

At the time, the tubing/fittings/labor expense was approximately 10% higher than 100-R1 and crimped fittings. Additionally, my “hook-up” hoses…one length for trough to boom and one length for pump station to ss tubing…2 relatively short spares!

A well thought out and careful SS tubing installation will last the life of the wash…and it’s maintenance and worry free…well, except for the hook-up hoses. Plus, you’ll eliminate slow soap-to-rinse changeover time due to saturated hoses.
 

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Line-loss through 3/8" ID hose or tubing is negligible until you exceed 100'. 1/2" ID will significantly increase chemical changeover time with no benefit.
 

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I just hooked up 60' of brand new 3/8" single braid hose from the pump and put a gun and wand on the end just for chit and giggles YEP the old hoses are coming out definitely the amount of pressure is way higher, I should have done this years ago.
 

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Where is a good place to purchase stainless tubing?
 

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Sparkey,

We used some Swagelok stainless quick disconnects that were the best we ever used. So quality probably won't be a problem. It is possible there could be "sticker shock" not sure. Long term wise, like Cantbreak alluded to ... it could be the way to go though.
 
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