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I just put these up for someone. The light at the rear is a properly working 320 watt metal halide, the front is this 60 watt LED. I ordered the plastic panels cut to size (15 11/16" rigid HDPE) which cost about $12 apiece. Since all the light is cast down, the bay is lit up just as well even though they're barely half of the rated light output. I've seen a few washes redone with a square Hyperikon 80w fixture and they aren't nearly as well lit as this one is now.

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I just put these up for someone. The light at the rear is a properly working 320 watt metal halide, the front is this 60 watt LED. I ordered the plastic panels cut to size (15 11/16" rigid HDPE) which cost about $12 apiece. Since all the light is cast down, the bay is lit up just as well even though they're barely half of the rated light output. I've seen a few washes redone with a square Hyperikon 80w fixture and they aren't nearly as well lit as this one is now.

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Since it looks like they can be flush mounted / side wried, why mount them to the box with a panel?
 

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Looks like the wall is eating 40% of the light. Why doesn't that guy have em moved over 2 feet?
 

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Since it looks like they can be flush mounted / side wried, why mount them to the box with a panel?
He was looking for the quickest, cheapest install. There's a power cord that comes out the top, so I just fed it through a hole in the plastic and connected it ti the power to the old fixture. It only took about ten minutes per unit including stripping out the old ballast parts.
 

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There nice and bright. Only problem I see is they should be centered more towards the middle of the bay or tilt the fixture so it's projecting the light more towards the center of the bay, there's to much light hitting the walls. The light that's hitting the walls is wasted light.
 

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For what's worth:
Years ago I went on Ebay and bought 50W LED flood lights for$20 each, I think it was, to replace my metal halides.
They come with a power plug and I just plug them into a socket that is mounted on the ceiling. If they ever fail I get another one.
In the beginning a few failed but I haven't replaced a single one for the last two years.
Light output is great.
 

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. Only problem I see is they should be centered more towards the middle of the bay or tilt the fixture so it's projecting the light more towards the center of the bay, there's to much light hitting the walls. The light that's hitting the walls is wasted light.
IMO this is not correct. For the SS Bay the sides of the car need t be illuminated down to the floor. Centering lights will not illuminate this area. In a EE Tunnel if the customer is in the car centering would be correct. If they are looking in from a side hall same rationale as a SS Bay particulrly ith the side they view.
 

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For what's worth:
Years ago I went on Ebay and bought 50W LED flood lights for$20 each, I think it was, to replace my metal halides.
They come with a power plug and I just plug them into a socket that is mounted on the ceiling. If they ever fail I get another one.
In the beginning a few failed but I haven't replaced a single one for the last two years.
Light output is great.
I've seen lights like that in wash bays - they do a decent job, but at minimum I still would have had to install outlets in place of the light fixtures and then fabricate a mount for the lights. This upgrade took minimal cost and time, and I'm pretty sure would fully pass electrical code. I don't think lights permanently mounted and plugged in would, at least not here.
 

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IMO this is not correct. For the SS Bay the sides of the car need t be illuminated down to the floor. Centering lights will not illuminate this area. In a EE Tunnel if the customer is in the car centering would be correct. If they are looking in from a side hall same rationale as a SS Bay particulrly ith the side they view.
I think he means they're too close to the wall. I'm installing the same lights at my wash, they're about 3 1/2' from center instead of about 7' from center. It lights up the sides of the car well but doesn't cast so much light over the wall in the next bay. The ones in these photos are also too close to the end of the bay so you end up with your own shadow on the car while you're washing, but as I mentioned the guy just wanted quick and cheap without having to run new conduit and electric.
 
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