Soaps JBS vs. K-R ultra concentrates

[soonermajic]

Fonic Power concentrate vs. K-R Vanilla Crème.

Vanilla Crème has good foam, GREAT smell, & slightly above avg cleaning

Fonic...I do not know. Price seems a lil less than V.C.
I think both you mix w/ 10 gallons of water, correct?

 

[JMMUSTANG]

Switched to Fonic from Orange Creme this year. Had been using OC for years.
OC foamed great when not gelling up the foot valve but more importantly the customers started complaining about the cars not cleaning as well as before.
Switched to Fonic and customers have noticed. Big difference.
I mix with 10 gals. water and use the same tip as I had with OC.
Since then I've switched to JBS wax, foam brush, tire, engine and presoak. Next will be the triple foam.
So far I've been very happy with JBS.

 

[soonermajic]

anyone else have any experience w/ these?

Jim,
what wax, FB & TC were you using, & what did you switch to? Was cost about the same?

 

[Earl Weiss]

I use KR Ultra Concentrates for my SS, BUT I have given up on some of the SS Products. I use their tunnel low PH for the Pre Soak, and HP Soap. - Same Product.

I use Cherry Blossom for FB as well as their FB anti freeze soap. Just Peachy for the Wax, Kleen White for the wheels and Engine cleaner.

 

[JMMUSTANG]

Just Peachy wax, Bubble Up foam brush(no problems with BU) and Kleen White Tire and Purple Passion presoak.
I did use Sonic Wash for a year. Had no problems with gelling and it seemed to soap up good.
Still using up the Bubbleup that I have and will be switching to JBS for foam brush.
After some other operators had positive comments about JBS I just decided to try it
I’ve tried both Fonic Power and Fonic PC for high pressure soap.
Fonic PC has more cleaning power but didn’t foam as much as Fonic Power.
As I said my customers like the Fonic Power more than the Fonic PC ( had some complaints about the amount of suds with Fonic PC)
Using JBS Clear Coat Sealant with grape scent for wax. Not sure if KR carries this, I got this from JBS direct.
JBS Predator for tire & wheel.
My biggest problem the last few years with KR soap has been that it gells up when you buy large quantities and it sits around for a while.
Price is very comparable to KR soap.
I’ve been very pleased with JBS this year.

 

[Randy]

Years ago we used the K-R ultra concentrates and had nothing but problems with them. They’d jell or they would separate. We went over to JBS and have had very good results with it. We use the Fonic for both High pressure soap and for the Foam brush. For self serve wax we use Simoniz Cherry Glo #PA5308 and for Presaok we use Kleen-Rite Super Wash # KRWW50. I’ll never go back to the K-R ultra concentrates.

 

[slash007]

At one wash I use the Fonic Wash for HP soap, the Film Buster for Pre-Soak and their FB concentrate and love all of them. All smell good, foam up good and work very well. They have them on sale now for buy 3 get 1 free with free shipping, so excellent time to buy. I also use the KR Just Peachy and it doesn't foam, but it smells great and lasts forever. I don't dilute any of them, just use smaller tips, but that might be because of my JC setup.

 

[JMMUSTANG]

Thanks Randy for correctly spelling jelling, senior moment LOL

 

[soonermajic]

Anybody else?
Ivevtead about some jelling w/ Just Peachy. I haven't had thst yet. Anybody else had JP jell up?

 

[slash007]

I've been using the same pail for 7 months now and no jelling.

 

[pgrzes]

I've been using the same pail for 7 months now and no jelling.

7 Months on a pail of anything???Is the place shut down?

 

[Earl Weiss]

No jelling with JP

 

[slash007]

7 Months on a pail of anything???Is the place shut down?

Lol I have been shocked at how long it lasts. I kept upping the tip size and it smells great when it's being used, but still barely uses any. Wash is very busy. At this rate I will use one pail per year.

 

[soonermajic]

I'll do about $30k/yr, on 3 AS @ $1.50 startup 4 minutes. So moderately busy wash. I'll use 2 & 1/2 of those Just Peachy's/yr. Maybe I give too much...?

 

[water guy]

We have swapped everything over to AP Formulators we have good results. And have a Local soap rep close by.

 

[soonermajic]

Water guy
Where are you located

 

[slash007]

I'll do about $30k/yr, on 3 AS @ $1.50 startup 4 minutes. So moderately busy wash. I'll use 2 & 1/2 of those Just Peachy's/yr. Maybe I give too much...?

I tried using an even bigger tip, but didn't see any difference at all in the bay. Same output and smell. How does yours look in the bay? Does it foam up at all? Mine doesn't, but you can clearly smell it.

 

[soonermajic]

No foam, but it looks Orange ish, & smells great. E
Beads up really nice to.

 

[slash007]

Mine smells great and beads up, but not really orangish out in the bay. Its a dark orange in the holding tank though.

 

[JMMUSTANG]

Mine smells great and beads up, but not really orangish out in the bay. Its a dark orange in the holding tank though.

What color tip are you using?
I had always deluted it with 10 gals. of water.