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What did we all do to save money last year? I'll start:

We put timers on the boilers, shutting them off from 9 pm to 7 am (we shut the floor heat off from 8pm to 12am and 2am to 5 am).

Anybody else have some ideas?
 

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What did we all do to save money last year? I'll start:

We put timers on the boilers, shutting them off from 9 pm to 7 am (we shut the floor heat off from 8pm to 12am and 2am to 5 am).

Anybody else have some ideas?
I've thought about doing this, but have read some negative things about the constant heating & freezing effect of the slab? I dunno?
 

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We don't have boilers or floor heat. We installed LED lighting to save electricity and went to a smaller nozzle on the guns to save water.
 

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What did we all do to save money last year? I'll start:

We put timers on the boilers, shutting them off from 9 pm to 7 am (we shut the floor heat off from 8pm to 12am and 2am to 5 am).

Anybody else have some ideas?
Having been the victim of a slip and fall suit, I can tell you that you are risking your livelihood and the safety of your customers to save a few bucks. A lawyer would rip you to shreds, and if I were on the jury, I would side with the customer. Turning off your floor heat is just plain stupid. I'm not going to sugar-coat it and I don't care if it stings. If it gets you and anyone else that turns their floor heat off to stop doing it, it's worth it.
 

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I put a relay on my airline to my automatic, when someone pays for a wash and activates the wash a programable relay opens the valve and the airline opens, also on the relay is the 6- 4' lights for the bay. Relay stays on for 15 minutes after activation. little air leaks will always be there, so now my compressor does not run unnecessarily. I dont have any floor heat so no need to worry about it!!! I close SS bays totally below 25 Deg. Also we remove our triple foam guns for the winter. They dont get much use in the winter, so I save the weeps on them. Changed out our Metal Halides to 85w CFL bulbs a little over a year ago and are very happy with them. Probably some other things I cant remember!!! 2015 was a great year for us, on to 2016.
 
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I switched to powdered soap in all bays; touchfree and self serves. saves a bundle; mix my own and love it. order pallets of product to save on shipping cost. buy chemicals for car wash and detailing in drums when possible to save money. compare prices regularly; look thru kleen rite catalog to find same / similar products for less money. Simoniz is a favorite now because they have good prices and I feel they make lots of products that other companies copy ( so I know they must be good!).

Invest in tools that save time for detailing like: tornador, tornador blow gun (awesome), rotary pneumatic right angle carpet brush ( distributor wanted $127 each and I found them for $29 at Harbor Freight), typhoon blow guns, etc.

Apply tire shine now with a 3" paint brush and plastic paint bucket with handle and magnet that holds brush. WAY BETTER than spraying on tire shine (no waste, no fly that gets on cars etc). Probably use 1/3 the tire shine I used to use when spraying it on.

I could go on and on but will stop there.
 

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I put automatic open/close on last two of my five self service bays. One of my best improvements. Bays stay around 40+ degrees for customer comfort. Soap doesn't freeze on vehicles. Debris doesn't freeze on floor. Much more comfortable environment in which to clean bays. Customers spend more time and money and drive the extra distance to use my facility. Doors open with loop detectors in concrete. On these last two bays Airlift used photo eyes inside the bay instead of loops.
 

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I am always reminded of what one of the smartest businessmen I knew used to say, "You can't save your way to profitability". While it is important to operate as efficiently as possible I have seen some operators fool themselves into believing that some of the cost cutting they made had not affected the quality of their wash. It is important to make sure any cost saving measures you take do not negatively affect the performance of your wash.
 

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Replaced some 400 W MH with 150W LEDs and retrofitted some 320 W MH with 140W LED.
 

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Natural gas bill was outrageous so I turned down the temperature on the boiler. Apparently, the resulting flue condensation dripped onto the tube bundle and created “acid rain” into the combustion chamber. Some of the refractory bricks “melted” from the moisture and the soot buildup clogged the tube bundle fins requiring longer burn times just to heat the water. The boiler inspector came in and red tagged the boiler so I just by-passed it. Driveway washers use cold water from their hose bibs, right?

Business has been a bit slow this year so I adjusted the soap and pre-soak dilution ratios…they still foam ok, so folks don’t complain about “No soap”. I’ve reduced my chemical cost by almost 50%!

My foam brushes freeze up whenever the temperature is too cold to wash. I turn off the weep and remove them whenever the forecast is expected to be below 32F. Even though we have some “warm” days in the winter, it’s a real pain to constantly install and uninstall them, so I just leave them down in the winter time. Not having weep water going down the drain has saved me a ton! And, no more broken foam brush wands laying in the bays…priceless!

My water softener used way too much salt and I got tired of hauling and dumping those heavy bags into the brine tank. The Culligan man said the unit was obsolete and the needed parts were no longer available. Since the water supply is only 8 grains, I figured it was soft enough so I by-passed the softener. I’ve saved many hundreds of dollars on salt and all that water that just goes down the drain every night.

I kept finding my bill changer empty light on. Those dang laundromat customers! Then I realized the money wasn’t balancing. My changer guy said it was being strung and needed to be updated with a newer model. He said accepting $5, $10 and $20 bills would probably help with increasing income. Ha! Since thieves only work at night, I fixed that problem by plugging it into a dusk-to-dawn timer. Saved over $5000 by not buying a new changer!

On those 10 days a year when it finally gets busy, the water supply can’t keep up and the pumps bang and clatter. The plumber says there’s a problem with the main….it’s probably a clogged galvanized pipe. The estimate to dig it up and replace it was $30,000! I rigged up an old surplus stock tank to serve as a reservoir, lowered the pump pressures to 900psi and replaced all the spray tips with 4004s. That saves at least 1 gpm per bay. I bent the ends of the wands so they give more “kick” when the trigger gun is pulled. That fools the customer into thinking I’m still running at 1200psi.

I put up a big sign outlining the 18 RULES FOR USING THE CAR WASH in an attempt to keep the trash and vandalism down…it didn’t have measurable results, but things are a lot quieter now.

Two of my vacuums keep burning up the motors that I rebuild. So, now I’ve culled the herd. Anyway, the remaining 2 vacuums don’t do enough business to justify having all 6 working.

My last credit card reader quit working 15 months ago so now I have no need for internet access at the car wash. $78 a month saved! Just wish I'd thought to just cancel the service before I signed up for that new customer Bundle deal for phone/tv/internet.

After breaking my back to keep this place viable, I’ve learned one lesson: To make a small fortune in this business, you’ve got to start with a large fortune!

The bank is exercising its foreclosure proceedings next month. I hope I can hold them off until Spring because I really want to try my idea for saving money on foam brush soap…Dawn dishwashing liquid is super foamy, even at 800:1 dilution ratio!
 

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Looks Like CB80 needs for Spring to hurry up and get here so he can start golfing again. Right now he has too much time on his hands!

Still laughing! ;)
 

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"I put up a big sign outlining the 18 RULES FOR USING THE CAR WASH in an attempt to keep the trash and vandalism down…it didn’t have measurable results, but things are a lot quieter now."

What does the signage state? I am still pondering my script for bays and vacs.
 

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what size nozzles did you go to?
1505 nozzle, it gives the customer when they pull the trigger the feeling that they are really getting a lot of pressure. I’ve gotten comments about how much more pressure we have.
 

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I purchased and rehabbed a wash ten years ago that was part of the Super Wash chain. The floor heat was always set to turn off 8 hours at night with a 2 hour run from 12 - 2, per the directions in the Super Wash operators manual at the time. I left it that way, and have never had any problem with bays getting ice at night or morning etc... I analyzed my heat bills last year when the weather was cold and business was down for a few months, and saw a very nice savings at that property, and going back several years. I put the same system in at some of my other locations and it seems to be very effective. I'd like to know if anyone else is doing this and what their experience has been. As for injury lawsuits, I feel your pain lol...my last one was from a woman who tripped over the vac hose she was using (she settled, but still got paid ~angry face~).
 

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I purchased and rehabbed a wash ten years ago that was part of the Super Wash chain. The floor heat was always set to turn off 8 hours at night with a 2 hour run from 12 - 2, per the directions in the Super Wash operators manual at the time. I left it that way, and have never had any problem with bays getting ice at night or morning etc... I analyzed my heat bills last year when the weather was cold and business was down for a few months, and saw a very nice savings at that property, and going back several years. I put the same system in at some of my other locations and it seems to be very effective. I'd like to know if anyone else is doing this and what their experience has been. As for injury lawsuits, I feel your pain lol...my last one was from a woman who tripped over the vac hose she was using (she settled, but still got paid ~angry face~).

What are they using to control the times the floor hear/boilers are on/off?
 

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that's what i use to control my production water boiler in the car wash. i leave my floor heat at 46 and don't mess with it too much. my doors keep the bays pretty warm.
 

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that's what i use to control my production water boiler in the car wash. i leave my floor heat at 46 and don't mess with it too much. my doors keep the bays pretty warm.
46* is the ambient temp, floor temp, or return temp?
 

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“To make a small fortune in this business, you’ve got to start with a large fortune!”

That’s not true.

I’ve help a lot of people make a lot of money in the carwash business and none of the start-ups (excluding corporate investors) had a small fortune to begin with.

Did you buy or build this calamity?
 
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