Warsaw 534 wonder plus

[sparkey]

For those of you using warsaws wonder for your IBA single step presoak what is the ratio you are using it? Also do you use a booster? Does it do a decent job cleaning?

 

[steve569]

When using the 534 just by itself I mix it 90:1 Recently I have started using the Hot Shot Booster and I just follow the recommended ratios that are posted on the side of the Hot Shot container. I am happy with the results that I get.

 

[Indiana Wash]

I have always used 534 by itself. How does adding a booster work? Is it something that you need an additional low pressure inlet? When and where do you add it? Does it help?

 

[Greg Pack]

Hot shot is a caustic product mixture of sodium and potassium hydroxide. I use a dual tip eductor and usually use a purple hydro tip. But that concentration is considered dangerously strong, I would feel more comfortable telling people to use a pink tip.

Where you may have been using 534 with say a orange tip, you could probably dial back to a yellow tip, then get the bulk of your alkalinity from the hot shot. Overall the additional cost of the booster is largely offset by the savings in the presoak.

I will warn you that hotshot is bad ju-ju. However, I feel high levels of alkalinity are going to get you the best car possible in a touch free, and there is minimal risk of use for a knowledgeable, active operator.

 

[steve569]

Adding Hot Shot Booster to 534 helps you boost the alkalinity of the of the presoak and yes I feel it cleans better. To use it you just use a dual port injector or a splitter for a Hydrominder. You can even decrease the amount of 534 you use and achieve the same results. No I am not a distributor just a happy customer.

 

[sparkey]

Are you guys using hot shot year round or just spring and fall?

 

[Greg Pack]

I use them year round. I would say use them only when you feel you need to. I would prefer not to use it , but in the past my customers have noticed the difference in cleaning performance. The biggest problem with it is it makes the presoak noxious and irritating to the respiratory tract.

 

[Doug P.]

CFCW,
I use Warsaw 576 Finisher in Mark seven automatics with Bluewhite duplex pumps to inject the soap. It is my understanding that 576 is just like 534 but with added alkalinity. I run the 576 at about 85-90 drops using Warsaws titration kit.

Question 1: do you titration the 534/hotshot and if so how may drops do you run at?

Question 2: my Bluewhite pumps have two separate draw tubes and pumps but the two sides are combined on the outlet sides of the pumps, the combined chemicals then run through a single line to the inbay where they are injected into the water. Can the hotshot/576 combo run through the same line at the same time and be ok? They might sit in the line together for extended periods between cars.

I use Zep/ecolab/blue coral 366 combined with 380 at another sight with a different chemical injection system and it seems to clean better than the 576 by itself.

All input from those with experience would be appreciated.

Doug P.

 

[sparkey]

I am running 120 - 125 drops 534 with booster.

 

[Greg Pack]

I don't titrate with warsaws's kit. You can use blue coral's kit from the other wash - titrate to same levels and the results will be very similar. IIRC 380 is mostly Sodium Hydroxide. I shoot for 20 drops in a 5ml sample.

I believe the two have to be blended with water to stay in solution. Probably best to poor a few ml of each together and see what happens.