Got a hydro-spray rain maker. During cycle water main pump keeps kicking on and off. Rinse tank stays full. When car is in wash and it kicks plunger in electric panel you can hold it in and water continues and wash can be completed. You can turn tower or floor water on at computer and it would run all day. Any ideas.
Water turning on and off
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cantbreak80
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1st Step: By-pass the LLCO
If that solves the problem, check for loose connections or splices from the switch to the panel.
If that solves the problem, check for loose connections or splices from the switch to the panel.
cantbreak80
Maybe I need new clubs
Sorry...
LLCO = Low Level Cut Off (Switch)
LWCO = Low Water Cut Off (Switch)
Same thing...different jargon
Been awhile since I've been inside a Rainmaker cabinet, but I believe the LLCO/LWCO is a simple corded float at the bottom of the water tank. The float interrupts 24 VAC to the pump's motor starter. They aren't known for failure...but it's at least a 20-year-old machine.
LLCO = Low Level Cut Off (Switch)
LWCO = Low Water Cut Off (Switch)
Same thing...different jargon
Been awhile since I've been inside a Rainmaker cabinet, but I believe the LLCO/LWCO is a simple corded float at the bottom of the water tank. The float interrupts 24 VAC to the pump's motor starter. They aren't known for failure...but it's at least a 20-year-old machine.
I’ve looked in bottom of tank. The only thing I see inside of the tank is the float at top. I’ll take a closer look tomorrow but I’m pretty sure there is nothing there . May drain the water down lower just to make sure.
cantbreak80
Maybe I need new clubs
I just reread your first post...Nevermind the LLCO!
Since the pump runs non-stop from the touchscreen, I suspect the treadle switch. (That's the pad where the car's front tire sits.)
The treadle switch is connected to one of the green Phoenix relays in the panel. When the car is in place the relay's indicator will illuminate. Watch the relays when the issue occurs. If the relay blinks on and off, then check the treadle switch. I suspect it's failing.
Don't confuse the treadle relay with the encoder relay. The encoder relay flashes on/off as the carriage moves fore and aft in the bay.
Since the pump runs non-stop from the touchscreen, I suspect the treadle switch. (That's the pad where the car's front tire sits.)
The treadle switch is connected to one of the green Phoenix relays in the panel. When the car is in place the relay's indicator will illuminate. Watch the relays when the issue occurs. If the relay blinks on and off, then check the treadle switch. I suspect it's failing.
Don't confuse the treadle relay with the encoder relay. The encoder relay flashes on/off as the carriage moves fore and aft in the bay.
Well, I pulled treadle plate, made sure everything was clean, checked wiring in bay. went to computer turned on auto, ran my truck in, watched monitor and inside control panel, treadle light stays on even when water stops and comes back on. Still have problem with water shutting off.
cantbreak80
Maybe I need new clubs
Hummm...
Just might be that float switch.
Secure it in the UP position to see if that stops the problem.
Just might be that float switch.
Secure it in the UP position to see if that stops the problem.
Will try that tomorrow. I’m tired of messing with it today. Roped it off and came home. The tank stays full, even when running normally..just can’t figure why it shuts off and on.. maybe the contactor on the main switch? Have no clue.. it did this last summer when it was hot outside, I opened panel put a fan on it and it quit acting up. Now it’s 40 degrees outside and it’s doing it again.
Is it possible the tank isn’t filling fast enough at times causing the low water fault?
Tank stays almost Full. Water supply no problem.
Will look into that and let everyone know. Thanks. I’m getting a couple ideas as where to look.
jubalr
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You'll still need to eliminate the float switch, which could be switching to empty signal at a certain water level that is still plenty in the tank. Try to fix it in a position with the cord pointing down, or hold it there yourself while someone tries the wash. Since the wash is continuing to operate with the pump off hints to that tank switch.
I would look for a low level float or switch in the tank. If the float is floating at the top of the tank that may cause a problem