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My weep water currently weeps on to the floor and then runs down the drain. I dont have doors and the wind blows through only on really really windy days. I noticed last winter the only major ice build up that would ever occur was only where my weep water hit. My thinking was that if I didnt have ice build up from weep water which causes lots of ice build up because of the constant water, then I would not need to have my floor heat set high to melt off large layers of ice.
 

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My main goal is to eliminate my weep water. Which everyone knows that in cold climates, waste at least 60,000 gallons of water( going off my 6 bay site) per year on weep water. I just think that we should only have to use water unless somebody is paying for our water. What does everyone think about eliminating weep? My water and sewer rates might just be really high compared to others. I just think we can save ourselves a lot of money by not wasting water anymore.
 

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It will all depend on how well a waterless weep system works on a regular basis.

My biggest complaint would have to be the weep water running all night long on a 10 degree night, and the floor heat doing the same.

Even though, the winter brings in the most business, it also costs the most.

Sometimes you are only paying those large winter bills with money earned in the spring and summer months.

I cannot charge more in the winter price/time, unless most other washes followed suit. That would help offset some of the extra expense.

That is why there are some operators in the really cold climates that just close down, turn every thing off or to a low setting and wait for more favorable weather.
 

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I think getting a waterless system like the polar freeze guard system would pay for its self very quickly just off of the water and sewer saving. What do you think?
 
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Packer, what is the cost of this perfect solution?

And you don't happen to have anything directly or indirectly to do with this product?
 

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Pitzer, no I am not affiliated with this product at all. I just didnt realize a Weep system is what is used mostly by everyone. Thought there would be more people using a waterless system. Now when the economy slipped I just have been crazy about finding something better to save money. And autocareforum has been helping me out the most because everyone is very knowledgeable about anything.
 

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From very limited personal experience, I have tried using air instead of weep water to clear up lines and let me say it didnt last very long before we switched back to plain weep water...not sure if it was because moisture in the compressed air or if it just wasnt blowing out enough water trapped in all the nooks and crannies.
 

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Any suggestions for preventing the tip on the wand from plugging up? What kind of hose are some people using?
 

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Do not have galvanized plumbing anywhere in your system. My plugging was always small pieces of rust.
 

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Yea, I just want to have the least amount of freeze ups this winter no matter if I stay with my weep mizer of go with a waterless system from polarfreezeguard. Ive noticed that people say that plugged tips are one of the biggest problems with freeze ups no matter if you use weep or no weep.
 

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Last year I had a piece of rubber get caught in the tip. How often do you change your hoses in the self serves to prevent this? Or is it not worth changing your lines every so often because it doesnt matter?
 

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Nope, don’t change the hose unless they are broken or leaking or about to break. Last week I had a small rock in one of the tips, it had to have come from the water supply. I can’t believe that it worked its way through the system. One thing I do whenever I replace a hose and a lot of operators don’t do this is to flush the hose out for a few minutes before I connect it to the gun. You can’t believe the amount of rubber and other debris is in the hose. Expressly if you’re using a reusable fitting.

What does this weep system cost. My weepmizer only adds about $60 - $75 a month to my water bill.
 

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RANDY,

The waterless system im talking about is not a weep system. This system is called polar freeze guard systems, eliminates your weep. its a new system that I was looking into from polarfreezeguard.com. To get a price you have to visit their site because it goes off of how many bays or iba's you have.

I like your idea about flushing the line when you change a hose, very good idea. Its amazing what makes it way through the lines.

Thanks
 

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...One thing I do whenever I replace a hose and a lot of operators don’t do this is to flush the hose out for a few minutes before I connect it to the gun. You can’t believe the amount of rubber and other debris is in the hose. Expressly if you’re using a reusable fitting...
The things you learn on this site are priceless. What you do to your hose makes sense, I never even thought about that. Thanks for that tip!

(oh my, taken out of context this post might be considered porn)
 

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For sure i have learned so much by just asking questions.

Autocareforum is the best on the web..Thanks

Here is another question for everyone, from what month to what month is your "weep season" and does it cost you a lot like it cost me a lot here?

Just wondering if im the only one that has kinda high water and sewer rates
 

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I turn on my weep system in late October and turn it off in early April, I have a ball valve in front of the normally open solenoid valve so I can turn off the water supply to the weep system and a switch on the power that feeds the solenoid valve so I can shut off the power to the weep valve, no need in keeping it powered up when it’s not needed. You do want to keep power on to the Dixmor Weepmizer to keep the internal battery charged. It all depends on how cold it is and how long the cold spell lasts as to how much water we use. Last year November and December were the cold months. I think the weep system running adds about $85 to $125 a month to my water bill. In turn lights on 24/7 when day light saving time ends and turn them off in late March, that adds about $85 or so a month to the light bill.

We don’t have floor heat here so after 28 years of fighting the cold and ice we are shutting down the car wash when it gets real cold. We shut off the weep system, blow air into the weep system to get most of the water out and then pump windshield washer fluid into the system, turn off the power. Last year we shut down for 2 weeks during the winter. The odd thing revenue was about the same.
 

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Has anyone tired collecting waste water from their carbon filter and watersoftener and using it as weep water? It seems like this is a lot of water that just goes down the drain.
 

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There's an old thread about reusing the waste water from a softener. A lot of people use the reject from the carbon filter and RO system since it's still just water.
 
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