The place I bought had half of the bays with Cryptoay in count down mode with Ginsan timers. Redid all bays with Dixmore timers and all with cards wipers set in count up mode. Results have been awesome. At first I thought people were just not pressing the stop button, but no one has called to complain. See many charges over $10. Used to be rare to see a charge over 5 or 6 bucks before the change. Should have the touch4wash installed in a week and will let you know results couple weeks after. Right now in our rainy season with rain EVERY afternoon so results will be somewhat squishy.