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I am looking into new low pressure wax options for my self serve bays. Someone mentioned that turtle wax would be great due to the name recognition. I agree and would assume a name brand will be a good look for customers.
Should I go with a name brand like turtle wax? Does anyone have any other good options?
 

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Had Triple foam 5 years ago
Put wax on
Taking wax off when new signs arrive

Put ceramic on!
 

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Dont waste your time with wax
Move on to the future
Put ceramic on instead of wax.

We tested it this fall
Got it dialed in - played for a while
Had a couple local detailers come and try it on their vehicles.
Got feedback from them over the following 10 days 2 weeks
They all gave a super reports
Here is one-

Looks great! I had dust on it from the cornfields, and sprayed it off with just water an it still feels smooth and no water spots! Water beaded off the paint as well! Definitely worth the money!
Great product!!

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Ordered signage
 

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Dont waste your time with wax
Move on to the future
Put ceramic on instead of wax.

We tested it this fall
Got it dialed in - played for a while
Had a couple local detailers come and try it on their vehicles.
Got feedback from them over the following 10 days 2 weeks
They all gave a super reports
Here is one-

Looks great! I had dust on it from the cornfields, and sprayed it off with just water an it still feels smooth and no water spots! Water beaded off the paint as well! Definitely worth the money!
Great product!!

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Ordered signage
Okay, which ceramic wax would you recommend? Is it still applied at low pressure through the wand?
Just to confirm this is for a self serve carwash
 

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Yes- self serve bays
I want my self serve bays to have the same quality /new tech products that my IBA has!
Low pressure
At one wash we put it on with the foam guns we used for triple foam and then wax.
At the other wash site it will go thru the wand
I have a nice little pump system there that applies low pressure nicely.
 

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Dont call it Ceramic wax
Its not wax
I dont give a sh.. what the NCS guy says
Or any other 2 bit sales guy

i m going with a product called “Silk”
 

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Yes- self serve bays
I want my self serve bays to have the same quality /new tech products that my IBA has!
Low pressure
At one wash we put it on with the foam guns we used for triple foam and then wax.
At the other wash site it will go thru the wand
I have a nice little pump system there that applies low pressure nicely.
What low pressure system do you have for the low pressure applying wax? I currently fly have a simple air logic low pressure system. Will that work well?
 

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Dont call it Ceramic wax
Its not wax
I dont give a sh.. what the NCS guy says
Or any other 2 bit sales guy

i m going with a product called “Silk”
Who do you get the ceramic from?
 

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Turtle wax has good consumer name recognition. So does the rain-x line. Simoniz isn't what it used to be as far as consumer recognition.

Old traditional waxes are still very much in use in the industry and often contain mineral seal oil and/or silicones. The newest generation of waxes usually have the name "ceramic" in them since it is the next to the latest buzzword, the most recent buzzword being "graphene". The name ceramic given to a liquid product and claiming "infused with ceramic nano-particles" makes some manufacturers uncomfortable but they have to play the word game too and they are doing it on the consumer side also with products you buy in automotive stores. I believe the the truly active ingredients are just newer generations of silicones or siloxanes that do a great job enhancing the shine and even have a smooth feel to them after they bond together. In the SS and IBA tri color I use a foaming product by a company called Quest (not to be confused with chemquest) that is called vantagloss. As a liquid wax I use a product called total shield in both my SS and IBA. The ideal dilution of my products is 128:1 to 250:1 or so to get the full benefit so they are not well suited to be diluted in a high pressure stream. Although not a recognizable house brand the customers have caught onto their excellent performance of shine, feel, and beading and as a result my tricolor usage in through the roof compared to years past.
 

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My one and only Quest issue...
I have to reintroduce myself to the owner/manager every time I deliver their order.
 

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Turtle wax has good consumer name recognition. So does the rain-x line. Simoniz isn't what it used to be as far as consumer recognition.

Old traditional waxes are still very much in use in the industry and often contain mineral seal oil and/or silicones. The newest generation of waxes usually have the name "ceramic" in them since it is the next to the latest buzzword, the most recent buzzword being "graphene". The name ceramic given to a liquid product and claiming "infused with ceramic nano-particles" makes some manufacturers uncomfortable but they have to play the word game too and they are doing it on the consumer side also with products you buy in automotive stores. I believe the the truly active ingredients are just newer generations of silicones or siloxanes that do a great job enhancing the shine and even have a smooth feel to them after they bond together. In the SS and IBA tri color I use a foaming product by a company called Quest (not to be confused with chemquest) that is called vantagloss. As a liquid wax I use a product called total shield in both my SS and IBA. The ideal dilution of my products is 128:1 to 250:1 or so to get the full benefit so they are not well suited to be diluted in a high pressure stream. Although not a recognizable house brand the customers have caught onto their excellent performance of shine, feel, and beading and as a result my tricolor usage in through the roof compared to years past.
Thanks for all the info! Helped out alot. So for a wax that comes out of your wand at a low pressure you ate using total shield?
Would you recommend the foaming wax over the liquid?
What type of system do you have for the Tri foam wax?
 

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I'm still using triple foam polish from a separate foam gun in the SS bays. I buy mine from Autowash Maintenance.

It has good visual appeal and a great scent, both of which are important to customers. The product leaves the finish soft and shiny.
 
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