Estimate on building a 4/2

[soonermajic]

Could you guys give me a ROUGH estimate on building a 4/2? NOT including the land, equipment, codes, studies etc.
Im curious about the building,etwl roof, electric, plumbing & concrete, on about half an acre ish... Im actually considering an FRP building, w/ a metal roof
Wrap the end of the building, facing the road. Do 5 arch boom style vacs, a friction & touchless. Already have the dryers & paystations.
I have a spot that is clean, has water, sewar, electric, in a tiny rural town (3800 pop) & nearly zero codes etc.

 

[HeyVern]

1.5-2 million possibly less depending on site requirements.

 

[soonermajic]

I was hoping to be around $1.2mil, w/ FRP style building, & nearly zero codes, requiremebts etc...

 

[Eric H]

What is an FRP style building?

 

[soonermajic]

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This style. While @ SWCA , i talked to Mike Cherry, & a couple other guys about this. Seemed like a lot of positives for using it, & almost no negatives.
Positives: looks grear, easily maintained, cooler in Summer & warmer in Winter, goes up in a matter of days, very stout, can we wrapped etc...

 

[Eric H]

I have a PVC building with the poured concrete walls from Royal Building Systems (RBS) that I built in 2004. IMO, it’s the best way to build a wash and possibly the most expensive way. You’ll need to find a contractor with lots of experience with these buildings.
I’m fascinated with way SS’s and IBA’s are built in Europe. https://bkfcarwash.eu/ The buildings look clean, modern and economical to build. Unfortunately, I’ve been told they do not meet US building codes

 

[soapy]

It used to be that prepoured or prestressed concrete was the most economical way to go. I have seen a few around done with concrete. I also was told it was very popular in Texas to pour the concrete walls on the ground and let them cure then raise them. I do not think they look as nice as the PVC washes though. when I built my last wash using concrete blocks it was about half the cost of doing it with the PVC method but things might have changed. I would sure get bids both ways.

 

[Greg Pack]

I was hoping to be around $1.2mil, w/ FRP style building, & nearly zero codes, requiremebts etc...

1.2 million total project cost?

 

[soonermajic]

1.2 million total project cost?

Yes, $300 for both IBAs including install,
Plumbing $30k
Electric $50k
Install pre bought Dryers & paystations $20k
SS pumpstand & install $100k
Concrete $100k
Building $430k
Land $75k
Miscellaneous $100k
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$1,200,000 TOTAL

Pick it apart. Keep in mind almost no codes nor requirements. I want it build correct thpugh.

 

[HeyVern]

Yes, $300 for both IBAs including install,
Plumbing $30k
Electric $50k
Install pre bought Dryers & paystations $20k
SS pumpstand & install $100k
Concrete $100k
Building $430k
Land $75k
Miscellaneous $100k
______________________
$1,200,000 TOTAL

Pick it apart. Keep in mind almost no codes nor requirements. I want it build correct thpugh.

Figure double on the plumbing
Triple the electrical
Concrete here is ridiculous right now and hard to get.
The equipment for my 4 bay SS is just under $100,000.00 plus install

 

[Car_Wash_Guy]

I think you're way under on your plumbing and electrical estimates, but trade costs vary by region.

When I did my dual Petit install, electrical was $12K and plumbing was $5K.

My EE upgrade just my dryers was damn near $15K and that didn't include a $5K breaker.

 

[Greg Pack]

I have no recent experience but 1.2 sounds cheap. It cost me roughly 900K to build a 4/2 17 years ago, but the property was 200K. It just cost me close to 15K in electrical a few Months ago to reload an auto and add stand alone dryers to a site.

 

[soapy]

My last 4 and 2 built in 2003 was about 1.1 million and I knew a lot of the contractors personally. Land was 200K of the total. I would think at least 1.5 minimum.

 

[soonermajic]

My concrete was off by $50k, & i think plumbing & electrical similar but lil less.
Now thinking more like $1.3...

Eric, why do you say PVC is most expensive?

 

[Eric H]

Eric, why do you say PVC is most expensive?

Mostly from having conversations with my contractor. You’re basically building a re-enforced concrete bunker.
The contractor has to have the equipment and experience to assemble the walls, properly support, attach rebar and then fill with concrete using a pump truck.
CMU’s would be cheapest but pretty ugly.
I suspect that labor in your area is fairly cheap. Building a block wall and then covering it with PVC panels would be a step up but the corrugated panels will get damaged in a SS.
We paid the contractor $850,000 in 2004 for the building, electric, and paving. We contracted the plumbing and all the CW equipment, including floor heat, separately. That was for a 4 bay SS with a pitched metal roof.
The same contractor converted 2 bays in 2018 to auto bays by extending the walls 10’ and pouring new floors and a new roof to cover the new area. That was $350,000 and didn’t include any other trades.