I had 5 new ones made by hydrospray about 5 years ago, 3 of them are OK after about 3 trips and over a month to get them back. < they are the D/H time manager boxes. On the other 2 they didn't punch the holes for cryptopay swipers and the small hole below the center hole for the rotary switch was not right, and I also had 2 new faceplates from older DH max vacll that need studs removed and replaced in a different location so I can mount dixmor timers in them. I wanted to see if anyone had good luck with getting lids made anywhere else but I don't want to wait 2 months to get them done. Anyway I found a local guy that can fix the ones I have, so for now I am going that route.