soonermajic
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But....what's the rest of the story...?
Installing a new IBA
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Insurance was footing the bill as my Wesumat was destroyed by a vehicle strike. My distributor sells Mark VII and WashWorld. Both were priced within a thousand dollars of one another, and my choice was WW. The insurance company called Mark VII to verify pricing and availability. Much to my amazement, they just happened to have a $20,000 trade-in promo (they didn't even take it), and another $5,000 off if the machine had been crashed. I don't know what either has to do with what it costs to build the machine and sell it at a fair profit, but it is what it is. Long story short, if I wanted the WW I was going to have to kick in the $25K, and I wasn't willing. Although it wasn't my first choice, with the exception of an air line popping off a wheel scrubber the second day, the Mark VII has been flawless for the first two months.
We purchased a new Ryko Soft Gloss Max about 18 months ago. I purchased my first new automatic 27 years ago and have since purchased 14 automatics from 5 different manufacturers, so far the Ryko has been the most trouble free of any I have ever purchased. The programming and flexibility is decades behind most other leading manufacturers but it cleans well, but not as good as 3 brush machines such as the Mark 7 friction machine. I like the new pdq Surfline and the WW profile max but I have no clue about their reliability. I am getting ready to purchase another friction machine to replace a touchless automatic and would love to hear from someone who has experience with either the Surfline or the Profile Max.
Doug P
Doug P
DiamondWash
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What about the D&S IQ 2.0 Soft Touch? I also see Belanger is coming out with a new spinlite 3 brush IBA system www.cubewash.com
carwashireland
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That cube wash certainly does look innovative and impressive!
soonermajic
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The cubewash video didn't show or tell much. Looked like it was scratching the hel! outta that car!
soonermajic
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I don't understand: Ryko cleans good, but not as good as 3 brush? I thought Softgloss was a 3 brush? Ryko programming & flexibility is not good...or is good?
soonermajic
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What's the SUrfline?
I thought Wash World was upgrading their Profile Max...?
I thought Wash World was upgrading their Profile Max...?
1. Ryko soft gloss has 5 brushes.
2. The soft gloss struggles to clean the rear of cars. It also struggles to clean the top portion of the sides of full size SUV's.
3. The programming flexibility is not as good as most other automatics.
4. I am nit picking the machine as it has many other good points.
semocarwasher
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If you plan to get into the friction business you will have to change your philosophy. If you think that machine is "scratching the hell outta the car" you may want to reconsider as I promise your customers will agree with you.
soonermajic
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why do you say that?
I meant it looked like it was scratching because those brushes looked PLASTIC!
I meant it looked like it was scratching because those brushes looked PLASTIC!
MEP001
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I think he's saying that because if you tell your customers that your machine will scratch their car, they'll believe you.
The brushes are stiff but they aren't plastic.
soonermajic
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I was somewhat being facetious. I know it ain't scratching it, but it looks like it's plastic brushes
John J Spokas
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The brushes,or wheels as Belanger calls them, look the same as the washing material used in their "SpinLite" tunnel equipment. These have a heavier than normal center brush with small fingers attached to the ends. The idea is to rotate the brushes much slower than normal and still have good contact on the vehicle surface. This makes for a quieter experience inside the car while still getting good cleaning. Check it out at the ICA show, they will have both the "SpinLite" tunnel equipment and the CUBE there.
D3Dubs
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I have a 2 IBA with identical WW Razor Profiles. Very happy with the machines and the company. WW provides a customer training at their headquarters in Green Bay. I went last year and found it very valuable, as most people know being able to do your own maintenance can save big dollars.
Repair costs: let's put aside the normal repair items that we expect to replace like hoses, WW-specific items tend to be expensive IMO. Last week I replaced the driver assist speaker...about $400 for the speaker and another 250 for the install, ouch. A while before that we replaced the rollers that support the "e-chain", it is a long bolt, pvc roller and end cap and each one was almost $200. That said I don't find myself needing to repair things often.
Someone else in this chain mentioned the customer support of WashWorld and I'll second that motion. A few weeks back I was having an issue where I would get daily wash counts emailed from one machine but not the other. I called up and over the course of two days the guys there helped me figure it out. They stayed on the phone while I did troubleshooting and called in extra SME support when needed.
Overall happy with WW.
Repair costs: let's put aside the normal repair items that we expect to replace like hoses, WW-specific items tend to be expensive IMO. Last week I replaced the driver assist speaker...about $400 for the speaker and another 250 for the install, ouch. A while before that we replaced the rollers that support the "e-chain", it is a long bolt, pvc roller and end cap and each one was almost $200. That said I don't find myself needing to repair things often.
Someone else in this chain mentioned the customer support of WashWorld and I'll second that motion. A few weeks back I was having an issue where I would get daily wash counts emailed from one machine but not the other. I called up and over the course of two days the guys there helped me figure it out. They stayed on the phone while I did troubleshooting and called in extra SME support when needed.
Overall happy with WW.
