Sharia Law info, just in case you had some doubts

[mac]

Here's a link that appeared today
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...enced-to-death-in-Pakistan-for-blasphemy.html
Read it. A group of Muslim women claimed this Christian woman spoke ill of the great prophet and now she has been sentenced to hang. Peaceful, my butt.

 

[rph9168]

Another example of their "tolerance" and "non viiolent tendencies".

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/...ed-to-death-for-blasphemy-in-pakistan/?hpt=T2

 

[seattleguy]

So you are comdemning over a billion Muslims, an entire religion, based on a relatively small sampling of crazies? Makes no sense to me. If you had 10,000 examples like this it wouldn't sway me one way or another. It would be like a Muslim reading about some wacko white Christian American klansman lynching an African American and claiming all Americans are evil. One can't condemn a whole group based on the actions of a few.

 

[rph9168]

One can't condemn a whole group based on the actions of a few.

This is not a few. It is an entire nation.

 

[seattleguy]

This is not a few. It is an entire nation.

I give up. You must be right.

 

[MikeV]

How many is enough. In a discussion with a relative...a flaming liberal, he asked me what I thought about 9/11. I told him , thank God Bush is the president, If I were president, the entire middle east would be glass by now. He was astonished and asked me if I would kill that many people in retaliation. I said...of course, how many do they have to kill before we take action. For me...1 is too many. The danger is that we are standing idly by and watching the radical muslims...which I feel is all muslims...are taking over the world with little or no opposition.

 

[JJJakubowski]

It bears repeating

I'm repeating this post (from a painfully familiar, similar thread), because, for some, it obviously needs repeating:

Here's a lecture given by a respected Kuwaiti professor. He seems like such an amiable, gentle, scholarly, and good humored guy ... until you read the translation of his little pep talk.

http://vodpod.com/watch/1445899-alarming-video-every-american-should-watch

If you think this lecture is directed to "fringe" Islamists, think again. You'll note that the audience repeatedly expresses its approval of what is being said. And the audience is not young, wild eyed, scarf hidden, cave dwelling, AK-47 wielding terrorists types. No, they are middle to upper class, mature, "civilized", educated gentlemen who are giddy and gleeful at the thought of 100' s of thousands of Americans being killed.

There have been a number of credible surveys (for example, Pew Research) done regarding Muslim sympathy and support of jihad terrorism. The percentage of those members of this "religion of peace" who tacitly or overtly support the slaughter of infidels is shocking. Depending on the survey, something like 20-40% and more (100's of millions!) support terrorism to achieve a global Islamic state.

One of the telling ironies in this lecture is the fact that it is being delivered by one of our "friends" . That is, a notable citizen of Kuwait --- the "moderate", modern and wealthy country that the USA liberated after it was invaded by Saddam Hussein. With friends like that, who needs enemies?!!

JJJ/SSCWN

 

[JJJakubowski]

An analogy to understand the "peaceful" Muslims

It is important to understand and be prepared for the cultural and religious war that has been declared (and is being waged) on us. We ain't seen nuthin' yet. Oh, but we will ... we will.

The uninformed and naive Liberals want to believe that the radical Islamists are but a fringe and try to marginalize the threat to us and the world. They have chosen to buy into this "religion of peace" propaganda and wishful non-thinking. The fact of the matter is, a large majority of Muslims truly believe that world wide "holy war" and wholesale slaughter of infidels is, ultimately, the will of Allah and the way things gotta be.

That is, butchering non-Muslims is unfortunate, regrettable, and oh so terribly unpleasant to contemplate. BUT it's the fault of those darn Christians, Jews, and non-believers who stubbornly refuse to convert to Islam --- so they're "asking for" the harsh treatment the Quran mandates.

Here's an analogy for understanding the "peaceful and reasonable" majority of Muslims:

A large majority of "civilized" folks find hunting, killing animals, field dressing, and butchering meat for their table too, too unpleasant to do themselves. Most are disgusted at the thought of doing something like that. They just do not have the stomach for it. However, they sure do love their steaks, cheeseburgers and chili dogs. So they "thank God" that there's somebody else out there who will do that "icky" but necessary stuff for them.

So it is with all too many Muslims. They themselves may not have the stomach for beheadings, stoning women to death, suicide bombings, mass murder via anthrax, etcetera, etcetera. BUT somebody has to do that "icky stuff" mandated by the Quaran. And again, I point to credible research/surveys that have demonstrated that a VERY large segment (100's of millions!) of Muslims do not even regret the slaughter of non-believers --- they explicitly support terrorism to fulfill the will of Allah!

Maybe, just maybe, when naive, ill informed Libs are beheaded they then might get it. Then again, so many have already loss their heads — which can be found stuck up where the sun (and light of truth) don't shine.

JJJ/SSCWN

 

[MudMoney]

This issue with muslins is going to get real messy.I lived in Turkey for 3 years and witnessed 3 hand removals from thieves,one was a 12 year old boy.This was done by the Kurds in eastern Turkey.The women and young girls worked in the fields while the men and their sons sat in the tea and coffee shops.The fields that I saw most of the time were poppy,as Turkey is a source of heroin.Muslins do not tolerate the gay lifestyle so if they get a strong foothold in the states there will serious consequences for gays and its not likely that Whoppie Goldberg or others on the View will take a bullet for them.We are in for some very dark times ahead,that alot of Americans don't think it will happen here.I will see it in my life time.

 

[seattleguy]

This issue with muslins is going to get real messy.I lived in Turkey for 3 years and witnessed 3 hand removals from thieves,one was a 12 year old boy.This was done by the Kurds in eastern Turkey.The women and young girls worked in the fields while the men and their sons sat in the tea and coffee shops.The fields that I saw most of the time were poppy,as Turkey is a source of heroin.Muslins do not tolerate the gay lifestyle so if they get a strong foothold in the states there will serious consequences for gays and its not likely that Whoppie Goldberg or others on the View will take a bullet for them.We are in for some very dark times ahead,that alot of Americans don't think it will happen here.I will see it in my life time.

I have a great friend in Turkey. He would tell you that Kurds aren't in any way Turks and gets super offended at the suggestion that they are. I have never been to a Kurdish area but love Turkey and Turkish people. As to the women working and the men loafing around I saw that all over Georgia - really blew my mind. I agree with you about the lack of tolerance for gays and others in general....Istanbul not so bad but more rural areas it is worse, but that is true in most countries.

 

[seattleguy]

Before I get flamed on here - I meant Georgian Republic not the US State. But anecdoctally I saw this phenomenon throughout the Caucasus.

 

[mac]

I have a question for politically correct seattle guy. If Islam really is a religion of peace, I would like for you to do a simple test of this. On your next trip to any predominately muslim country, imply stand on a street corner and hand out free bibles. Report back to us then if you're still alive.

 

[seattleguy]

I have a question for politically correct seattle guy. If Islam really is a religion of peace, I would like for you to do a simple test of this. On your next trip to any predominately muslim country, imply stand on a street corner and hand out free bibles. Report back to us then if you're still alive.

Mac - Thanks for the politically correct moniker. Most people that know me definately would not see me that way. Please find me the post where I call any religion, including Islam, to be "of peace."

 

[mac]

Seattle, you seemed surprised that most here would condemn a billion muslims for the few radicals. I simply asked you to prove that we have nothing to fear from this so called religion. Do my test and get back to us. Or maybe you would be afraid to do that with the religion of peace?

 

[seattleguy]

Seattle, you seemed surprised that most here would condemn a billion muslims for the few radicals. I simply asked you to prove that we have nothing to fear from this so called religion. Do my test and get back to us. Or maybe you would be afraid to do that with the religion of peace?

Mac - So far a few people have posted on this thread. Now, I have no clue how many users this forum has but again you are playing fast and loose with data and concluding "most." You have yet to show me where I called Islam (or any other religion) a "religion of peace?" You are asking me to fly around the world and hand out bibles (old or new?). I think my request is a lot more resonable. Come to think of it did I say we have nothing to fear from Islam?

 

[mac]

Saw this recently and was amused: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/non-violent-imam-beats-his-wife-bloody-while-quoting-the-koran/ Take a look at it Mr seattle guy. A loving imam breaking his wife's bones while quoting the stupid holy book.

 

[seattleguy]

Saw this recently and was amused: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/non-violent-imam-beats-his-wife-bloody-while-quoting-the-koran/ Take a look at it Mr seattle guy. A loving imam breaking his wife's bones while quoting the stupid holy book.

Terrible, just terrible.

The Blaze is a funny news website though. At first I thought it was satire. Is it?

 

[Washmee]

Terrible, just terrible.

The Blaze is a funny news website though. At first I thought it was satire. Is it?

No more so than Daily KOS, or others.

 

[seattleguy]

MAC - Where did I ever say that "radical freaking muslims" do not exist? Come on, man up and show us where.

 

[JJJakubowski]

Seattle, you have not said "radical freaking Muslims do not exist". BUT ...

You have been insisting that the rampant, worldwide violence and barbarism of Muslims represents only an insignificant and errant "fringe". So, yes, you have been tacitly "saying" Islam is a "religion of peace" and overwhelmingly populated with peaceful believers. I suggest that you re-search & re-THINK your position and understand why there is so much terror inherent in Islam. First, please read (and assimilate) posts #27 & 28 where I factually establish that "the Muslim problem" goes well beyond "just" the many 10's of thousands of Islamists rabidly inflamed to personally slaughter infidels ... or even other Muslims who are "not Muslim enough".

And then consider this:

True Christianity is a religion of Forgiveness, Love and, yes, Peace. Jesus' message was to "love your enemies and to do good unto those who hate you". There are no Gospel verses in which Jesus tells His followers to slaughter non-Christians — none! Despite that (and human nature being so damn inhuman) over the centuries, "devout" people (calling themselves Christian) have perpetrated countless acts of cruel death, destruction and depravity in the name of Jesus — acting absolutely and totally contrary to His mandates clearly specified in the New Testament!

History has shown how all the peaceful, loving teachings of Jesus can be so terribly corrupted by so many "believers" for so long. So think, THINK about all the horrific fruit that must necessarily fall from a faithful reading of the Quran. There are well over 100 verses ("sura") in the Quran where Mohammed very explicitly condones, commands and extols the "blessed virtues" of slaughtering, beheading and mutilating non-believers. Go to:

www.TheReligionOfPeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm

Read thru the verses/sura there and the commentary (all the way to the end) which explains and puts them in context. If you're at all capable of restraining your biases and presumptions, you will begin to grasp why & how the horrors done in the name of Mohammad and Allah are much, much more "mainstream" than you had wished to believe. Perhaps not all billion Muslims. But, at a minimum, a few 100 million ... and counting.

JJJ/SSCWN