Stainless for swivels?

[OASIS WASH]

is everyone using stainless swivels for the high pressure guns/hoses and also the foam brush. I am 6 months into my new wash and need to upgrade ALOT of them!! Wondering if I can get by with brass or something else.

Thank you!!

 

[MEP001]

I use stainless inline swivels because I rebuild them. Brass swivels wear and don't hold up after being rebuilt, especially after being used at the gun.

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-1541-straight-swivel-38mxf-ss-5000psi.aspx

I use the same swivel with a street elbow as a boom swivel, so I only have to stock one type.

I use this one for the foam brush and trifoam gun. They last for years.

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-1610-spraying-systems-break-away-swivel-38fxm-brass-800psi.aspx

 

[PaulLovesJamie]

I've been using the first swivel MEP linked to for years, like 20. I use it for high pressure and FB. Lasts a long time, easy to rebuild.

Regarding SS vs brass, yeah, SS lasts longer, is more durable, and IMO looks better. I use SS for a lot of things, definitely for all swivels.

 

[I.B. Washincars]

I've used the swivel in MEP's first link and hate them. They won't swivel.

I now use this one

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-1549-fluid-controls-ball-bearing-swivel-38fxm-brass-2000psi.aspx

 

[OurTown]

I've used the swivel in MEP's first link and hate them. They won't swivel.

I now use this one

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-1549-fluid-controls-ball-bearing-swivel-38fxm-brass-2000psi.aspx

We use the ones that MEP uses for our wands and they seem to swivel fine. Are you saying that they won't swivel after awhile or when new? We use those brass ones you linked for our foam brush and they seem okay.

 

[MEP001]

I've used the swivel in MEP's first link and hate them. They won't swivel.

I now use this one

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-1549-fluid-controls-ball-bearing-swivel-38fxm-brass-2000psi.aspx

I have had some that don't swivel well, but since I use two on the HP hose I usually just wait until they go out and once I rebuild them with a dab of marine grade wheel bearing grease they swivel very well. Next time I have one that doesn't swivel I need to take it apart right away as I suspect someone at Adams isn't greasing them.

 

[Greg Pack]

I've used the swivel in MEP's first link and hate them. They won't swivel.

I now use this one

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-1549-fluid-controls-ball-bearing-swivel-38fxm-brass-2000psi.aspx

We get it IB- You're a special snowflake. Nothing that works for us works for you. Your cat pumps are crap, your general trigger guns leaks after mere minutes of use, and you use round brush heads(wtf?).

Quit being an attention whore.

 

[OurTown]

Next time I have one that doesn't swivel I need to take it apart right away as I suspect someone at Adams isn't greasing them.

When we get them they are dang near plugged full of red grease.

 

[I.B. Washincars]

We get it IB- You're a special snowflake.

I'm glad you're finally realizing that.

 

[MEP001]

When we get them they are dang near plugged full of red grease.

Red grease? The one time I took a new one apart it had a tiny bit of white lithium grease in it.

 

[PaulLovesJamie]

I've used the swivel in MEP's first link and hate them. They won't swivel.

I now use this one

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-1549-fluid-controls-ball-bearing-swivel-38fxm-brass-2000psi.aspx

I dont understand too many things, or maybe I'm periodically incompetent - a few years ago I needed to replace a few swivels, so I bought 4 of that exact swivel to try out. Every blasted one leaked right away, right where the pin goes thru them. Every. friggin. one.
They're still sitting in a box somewhere, probably way too late to return them. So, like many other things, they will become target practice.

 

[OurTown]

Red grease? The one time I took a new one apart it had a tiny bit of white lithium grease in it.

Now that I think about it maybe they were the brass ones that IB referenced. Those and the stainless ones you referenced are the only ones we currently buy. Of course I don't have any spares of either to look at right now.

 

[OurTown]

So, like many other things, they will become target practice

At least they will be put to good use. I'm always looking for things to "recycle" in that way.

 

[2Biz]

I believe the reason the SS ones wear out so fast is once pressure builds, they are hard to swivel by design. If you've ever taken one apart, you'll know what I mean. BTW, I like both, as long as your setup keeps the SS ones from having to swivel under pressure....

On the HP hose, I have a SS swivel at the boom and at the gun. About 16" down from the boom, I put in one of the fluid controls BB Swivels....It does all the swiveling when the HP is on. Makes walking around a car so much easier too! The Fluid Controls BB swivels have been installed about 7 years. I've never had one fail. Actually can't think of the last time I replaced a SS swivel either....FWIW!

 

[MEP001]

I believe the reason the SS ones wear out so fast is once pressure builds, they are hard to swivel by design.

That doesn't make sense. It's a high pressure swivel, and I expect it to swivel under high pressure. The Adams swivels usually swivel smooth and free under pressure even though there are no bearings, just a nylon washer.

Just opened up a new Adams swivel which was very stiff, probably because of the Loctite in the "bearing" and the almost complete absence of grease (There's a tiny amount of white lithium grease on the o-ring).

 

[toddmullens]

Any ideas on how to repair these damn things?

 

[MEP001]

Which things?

 

[toddmullens]

Sorry I thought it Quoted the original post but the fluid control swivel

 

[MEP001]

There is a kit for it:

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-15...aring-swivels-repair-kit-for-14-38-brass.aspx

 

[toddmullens]

There is a kit for it:

https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-15...aring-swivels-repair-kit-for-14-38-brass.aspx

I have seen the kit, I just don’t understand how to take apart the swivel. I have searched everywhere for repair instructions, but can’t seem to find anything