vac nozzles

[MEP001]

I've used the swivel nut cuff, and even if you cut off the extra length of the claw nozzle below the ring that snaps into the cuff, it rubs on the hose and doesn't swivel easily, and it's fairly easy to pull the claw nozzle out of the cuff. If you don't cut the claw nozzle at all, it goes so far into the hose that it won't swivel.

 

[Mchas]

Been using these for years:

Two-Piece Vac Swivel Cuff 2" Hose x 2" Nozzle | Kleen-Rite

Gray plastic two-piece vac swivel cuff helps keep your vacuum hose tangle-free. Get it at the best low price at Kleen-Rite!

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Gray Vac Nozzle 2" | Mr. Nozzle Best Price Vacuum Nozzles | Kleen-Rite

This Mr. Nozzle Claw Vacuum Nozzle is designed for 2" hose on commercial car wash vacuums.

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If you push really hard they snap right into place, the one your using looks different than I use.
Like ourtown mentioned I do the same way.

The problem with those is if you have to take the swivel part out it’s a bear.. have to heat up the grey part to make it expand a bit and then pry out the clear plastic piece

 

[Twodose]

I never take them apart, just replace them. I couldn't imagine trying to get that clear swivel part out, cause they are a little difficult to get in, I put the clear swivel part in first using a second swivel to help with that, then install the vac nozzle.

 

[Twodose]

The one's I use and what it looks like when it is in.

 

[2Biz]

I'm going to revive an old thread I must have missed....Recently I've been pulling my hair out with the 2" one piece swivel cuffs. It doesn't take long and the swivel joint fills up with crud and it locks up. When that happens, the cuff usually spins off the hose...I'm constantly screwing the nozzle/cuffs back on the hoses...When searching YT I found a video that shows I have been doing it wrong all these years and like what was discussed earlier in this thread! BUT, I pulled a new cuff and claw off the shelf and tried inserting it as shown in the attached video from KR, which appeared quite easy?!?! Like others have commented, I'm no weakling and there was absolutely no way I could get it to seat all the way like in the video....After looking closely at the cuff and claw, it is designed to go all the way in like the video. The end of the nozzle is actually supposed to go inside the hose about 1/2"-3/4" when assembled correctly to aid in keeping dust and dirt out of the swivel joint! So I then tried installing a new claw (the 2" end) into a new hose and it fits very snug, meaning it will only add to the resistance of the swivel if installed all the way. I also noted in the first video that it looked like he had grease inside the cuff! That in itself looks like a dirt magnet....I think I'm tired of fighting the one piece cuff and will try the 2 piece like Twodose recommended! Never too late to teach an old dog new tricks! LOL

One piece swivel Video:

Two Piece Swivel Video like Twodose said he uses:

 

[OurTown]

I'm going to revive an old thread I must have missed....Recently I've been pulling my hair out with the 2" one piece swivel cuffs. It doesn't take long and the swivel joint fills up with crud and it locks up. When that happens, the cuff usually spins off the hose...I'm constantly screwing the nozzle/cuffs back on the hoses...When searching YT I found a video that shows I have been doing it wrong all these years and like what was discussed earlier in this thread! BUT, I pulled a new cuff and claw off the shelf and tried inserting it as shown in the attached video from KR, which appeared quite easy?!?! Like others have commented, I'm no weakling and there was absolutely no way I could get it to seat all the way like in the video....After looking closely at the cuff and claw, it is designed to go all the way in like the video. The end of the nozzle is actually supposed to go inside the hose about 1/2"-3/4" when assembled correctly to aid in keeping dust and dirt out of the swivel joint! So I then tried installing a new claw (the 2" end) into a new hose and it fits very snug, meaning it will only add to the resistance of the swivel if installed all the way. I also noted in the first video that it looked like he had grease inside the cuff! That in itself looks like a dirt magnet....I think I'm tired of fighting the one piece cuff and will try the 2 piece like Twodose recommended! Never too late to teach an old dog new tricks! LOL

One piece swivel Video:

Two Piece Swivel Video like Twodose said he uses:

I could write a short novel on all the different things we have tried on the 2" nozzles. What we have found to be the worst idea is the first video with Phil. The swivels get dirty and unscrew. The best idea we have used is a one piece fixed cuff that were at our car wash when we bought it. We have bought new ones at various places and can't find exact replacements. They have a longer section where it goes over the nozzle and it's also a little big in diameter to allow the nozzle to spin. One thing that you can do on any of them is cut the short section of the nozzle back to right at the barb. The reason is we have noticed that that little straight is a bit large and rubs on the inside of the hose. (Interference fit) Again, if we could ever find those old style cuffs again the straight section is longer to prevent it from interfering with the hose. What we have settled on is the two piece cuff. They do leak more air than the other styles and they are noticeably bulkier. The install video has an install flaw in my opinion. The nut should go onto the hose and then you should install a pop rivet to prevent it from unscrewing from the hose. I think I have heard of others gluing them on. When is time to replace we have been just cutting them off and throwing the while assembly away. If you have lots of people running over and crushing the nozzles often then the two piece may not be for you because of the extra install.

 

[2Biz]

I could write a short novel on all the different things we have tried on the 2" nozzles. What we have found to be the worst idea is the first video with Phil. The swivels get dirty and unscrew. The best idea we have used is a one piece fixed cuff that were at our car wash when we bought it. We have bought new ones at various places and can't find exact replacements. They have a longer section where it goes over the nozzle and it's also a little big in diameter to allow the nozzle to spin. One thing that you can do on any of them is cut the short section of the nozzle back to right at the barb. The reason is we have noticed that that little straight is a bit large and rubs on the inside of the hose. (Interference fit) Again, if we could ever find those old style cuffs again the straight section is longer to prevent it from interfering with the hose. What we have settled on is the two piece cuff. They do leak more air than the other styles and they are noticeably bulkier. The install video has an install flaw in my opinion. The nut should go onto the hose and then you should install a pop rivet to prevent it from unscrewing from the hose. I think I have heard of others gluing them on. When is time to replace we have been just cutting them off and throwing the while assembly away. If you have lots of people running over and crushing the nozzles often then the two piece may not be for you because of the extra install.

Thanks for the info! You'd think it would be easier than this! I just ordered some of the 2 piece design and will give them a shot...Good idea on riveting the nut to the hose before inserting it into the cuff...Do you have any issues with hair or whatever hanging up on the rivet?? In the video, he does mention installing the hose on to the nut first, but doesn't say anything about securring the hose to the nut...It makes sense to cut the assembly from the hose when/if it gets damaged. Lastly, does the nut or swivel get contaminated with dust/sand etc like the one piece cuff/swivel? If you secure the hose to the nut/swivel then you wouldn't be able to take it apart and clean it out, or I wouldn't think you could...I've taken apart the one piece cuff to clean them out, but despise doing it! I need to quite trying to save a few dollars!

 

[Keno]

One wash we took over used to just used to screw the nozzles directly into the hose, no swivels and no cuffs. We added swivels when we took over, but the attendant said they didn't have many issues with nozzle coming out the old way directly into hose.

 

[OurTown]

Thanks for the info! You'd think it would be easier than this! I just ordered some of the 2 piece design and will give them a shot...Good idea on riveting the nut to the hose before inserting it into the cuff...Do you have any issues with hair or whatever hanging up on the rivet?? In the video, he does mention installing the hose on to the nut first, but doesn't say anything about securring the hose to the nut...It makes sense to cut the assembly from the hose when/if it gets damaged. Lastly, does the nut or swivel get contaminated with dust/sand etc like the one piece cuff/swivel? If you secure the hose to the nut/swivel then you wouldn't be able to take it apart and clean it out, or I wouldn't think you could...I've taken apart the one piece cuff to clean them out, but despise doing it! I need to quite trying to save a few dollars!

They seem to stay pretty clean inside and don't remember having issues with not swiveling. If you really want to take them apart you can heat the cuff and wrestle it back off the nut. The issue is heating it back up while on the island. I suppose you could take the hose off and bring it inside to use a heat gun. You could also probably use a cordless heat gun too but I don't have one of those because they suck compared to a corded one. If you submerse it in hot water it needs to be much hotter than 120F. (close to boiling would work) I have tried a torch and even with being very careful I usually burn it. I wish they made them in black and not grey.

 

[Waxman]

i used to use straight cuffs and then swivel cuffs. then my good buddy eric told me he just jams the nozzle into the hose with no cuff at all!! since i have made a career out of trying to copy successful people, i adopted eric's way and never looked back.

 

[OurTown]

i used to use straight cuffs and then swivel cuffs. then my good buddy eric told me he just jams the nozzle into the hose with no cuff at all!! since i have made a career out of trying to copy successful people, i adopted eric's way and never looked back.

Do you find it difficult to vacuum with a nozzle that does not rotate?

 

[Earl Weiss]

The issue is heating it back up while on the island. I suppose you could take the hose off and bring it inside to use a heat gun.

When it was cold outside I heated many cuffs with a Mapp Gas Torch. Just be careful.

 

[Waxman]

Do you find it difficult to vacuum with a nozzle that does not rotate?

not at all

and i have never heard a complaint

 

[Randy]

Over the years I’ve tried just about every vac nozzle there is. They either stole them, took them off, we tried riveting them on the hose and they cut the hose just above the vac cuff. Now we use a VAA-20 vac cuff and I can’t remember when I last lost one. https://www.kleen-ritecorp.com/p-831-vac-upholstery-cuff-2-hose-x-1-1-2.aspx I’ve never gotten a complaint about them.

 

[edredtop]

I may be in the minority here but I haven't used cuffs for about a decade. When we stopped using them customers thanked us (women especially) because they weren't as cumbersome to hold, and they go deeper into the sides of the seats. To put the nozzle in, we leave the hose in the sun for about 15 minutes to warm it up and the nozzle slides in.

 

[2Biz]

I may be in the minority here but I haven't used cuffs for about a decade. When we stopped using them customers thanked us (women especially) because they weren't as cumbersome to hold, and they go deeper into the sides of the seats. To put the nozzle in, we leave the hose in the sun for about 15 minutes to warm it up and the nozzle slides in.

How easy is it to pull out the nozzle from the hose? Does it still swivel inside the hose or does it really not need to swivel? I got some of the one pice swivel cuffs with the insertable nut...Haven't had a chance to work with them yet, but thinking it might just be the same PITA as the 2 piece swivels. I like your idea!

 

[Waxman]

They still come off fairly easy. Yes you can grab the hose and twist the nozzle a little bit with the other hand if you need to

 

[edredtop]

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[edredtop]

How easy is it to pull out the nozzle from the hose? Does it still swivel inside the hose or does it really not need to swivel? I got some of the one pice swivel cuffs with the insertable nut...Haven't had a chance to work with them yet, but thinking it might just be the same PITA as the 2 piece swivels. I like your idea!

Yes, you can pull them out to replace them. We lose about 1or 2 a year and usually if I care to play the video back to see why, it's because somebody prior had driven over the nozzle and it was done anyway. It won't swivel when the hose is new but the hose flexes easily with your wrist. Over time the nozzle will spin just like in a cuff.

 

[Waxman]

i checked mine this morning. they all swivel great with just the nozzle jammed into the hose.