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    Help with floor heat

    OK...looks like it's supplying two distribution manifolds, one on each side of the building? The by-pass is indeed above the J-box and it appears to be nearly closed...so that's not the issue. There's absolutely no need to have any pressure on the system, let alone 18 psi. It's a...
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    Help with floor heat

    Oh...you DID state it's a 5 bay, didn't you! (reading skills are failing me faster than I care to know!)
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    Help with floor heat

    slash, How many bays? What's the outside air temp? Re: infrared gun. Thye work best when aimed at non-reflective surfaces. So, a patch of the flat black spray paint or a wrap of non-shiny black tape on the copper piping will provide some reasonable data. Measure the outlet of the...
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    Help with floor heat

    I.B., Good solution but, not all facilities are equipped with "pressurized" hot water.
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    Help with floor heat

    slash, So, why is your boiler bouncing off the high limit? There are 4 or 5 possibilities: Low water flow Temperature setting too low Interrupted pump operation Modulating control set too high Excessive by-pass flow Low water flow is possibly due to an eroded circulator impeller. This is why...
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    Help with floor heat

    slash, Short term, this should not be an issue. I'd be concerned about the frozen trough plumbing, unless that loop is staying warm. Otherwise, it may be in you best interest to close the car wash and purge all the bay supply until the sub-zero conditions pass. These systems are typically...
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    Help with floor heat

    slash, First...the design temp for most floor heat systems is usually +10 degrees. You should not expect ice free performance at ambient temps below the design temp. That's also why your home's heating system has trouble keeping up with the unusually cold nights. As for the gas valve short...
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    Help with floor heat

    The “Automatic” high limit stat turns off the gas valve when the set-point is achieved. The “Manual” high limit stat is there as a backup…to prevent overheating in the event of an automatic high limit failure. When the manual stat trips, it could be an indication of too little flow through the...
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    Good soap to try

    area123, There are several sources for car wash supplies in OK and surrounding states: Jim Coleman Co. and Kleen-rite in Texas. Dultmeier is located in Omaha. HPWS and Lee Soap in CO. There are several equipment/chemical distributors in OKC. And, there’s likely a regional blender or two...
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    My Credit Card Use Results

    I was an early adopter of in-bay credit card acceptance. Although I was somewhat disappointed in the initial customer acceptance, I did not expect revenue increases…it was just another way to pay. 14 years later, credit card sales indicate a stronger move to cashless transactions in general...
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    Floor heat

    HCW, Your floor heat boiler is a copper tube-fin boiler. Basically, multiple copper pipes are bundled side-by-side above the burner, creating a large instantaneous heater. When the burner fires there must be significant flow through the tube bundle to heat the liquid without producing steam...
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    Bay Meters Cemented in or Flush Mount?

    When I remodeled, I removed the partially recessed meter boxes that were near the center of the bays (who ever thought that was a good location?) and, installed the new boxes about three feet from the entrance ends. My brick mason then added a course of “jumbo brick” to each meter wall...
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    Floor heat

    Your system can work, but you’ll have to overcome the poorly executed installation. To function effectively, every heating loop should be no longer than 200’ with 10% maximum differential. Running equal length loops from the equipment room is virtually impossible, therefore the shorter loops...
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    Water softener

    Yikes! Hard to tell from the pics but the system appears to be twin 150,000 grain softeners with very commonly used Fleck heads. Check for an installation/service/user’s manual for the model number or post a few close-ups of the heads. Fleck parts are readily available, manuals are...
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    Water softener

    Other than what appears to be undersized piping, is there something wrong with the current setup that prompted your question?
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    Water softener

    IMHO, the worst thing you can do is undersize the water softener based upon the monthly consumption. Because car washes enjoy peak days during the “washing season”, the softener system should be sized for those peak days and not for the average daily consumption. An undersized system will...
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    Oscillating nozzles???

    Every rotating nozzle I've seen has a zero degree tip. What if it stops rotating? (which never happens, right? :rolleyes:) I would never put a zero degree nozzle in the hands of the general public...your customers can due some serious damage. In addition to the tip protectors, using flex...
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    Equipment questions for small self serve for sale

    3 model 623 CAT pumps about years old Cat 623s are piston pumps, with many moving parts. Capable of 1200 psi (when operated at 100%) they are typically set to run slower and more reliably at 900 to 1000 psi. They need a bit more attention and service than the more modern plunger pumps, but...
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    Polybraid for LP hose?

    2Biz, I've solved your freeze up problem. I called my cousin Jake and told him to quit stopping by your car wash to turn on tri-foam when it's 15 degrees. :p
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    Polybraid for LP hose?

    2Biz, I find no appreciable difference in foam delivery with the 1/4" hose. A non-winterized brush starts showing foam in less than 6 seconds...a purged brush, maybe 12 seconds. Not a KR customer but I think their blue 1/4" Goodyear is HO0087BL and the 1/4x3/8 crimp-on is HU0406MB. I agree...
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