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ConServe systems also use filtration, ozone, and settling. I've got one that is over 10 years old down here in Florida and it's working just fine. Just like any other piece of equipment, it needs to be maintained. For the most part, the systems that aren't working have been neglected.

Rather than sitting on you computer posting on a message board at 8:30am on a Tuesday, you should be visiting your customers a bit more often. That wash didn't exactly go back to the bank yesterday. Way to stay plugged in.

Add people for scrubbing for the few weeks they're around. Upcharge, and deal with the few complaints and move on. The short bit of pain is worth re-calibrating your customers.

The new mini express tunnels are running about $200k before installation.

McNeil has a 38' mini tunnel that has wraps and rocker panel brushes. I agree about the HP. It's too close to the tire shine in my opinion.

ICS support is excellent. I wish I could say the same for DRB, but I would never buy another system from them because of their support. I love McNeil as well. We have four McNeil tunnels and have absolutely no regrets. We've also had three different types of tunnels in the past, but I won't...

Hey Mac, calling someone and idiot and inferring they are using cocaine is pretty serious stuff. That being said, I'm not sure that stretch can support 4 washes either. Heck, it couldn't support the three that were already there, thus the bank taking over the wash in Mulberry. If I had to...

I don't know about you, but we don't offer a "Mediocre Wash".

We actually have both at our full service locations. We've always internally called them by their numbers, so we added the 1-6 at our locations. I'll update everyone when we have some data.

Earl is the most thoughtful person on this board.

Without the the great Fuller family in Chicago and the Nychyk boys in Bonita Springs, FL, I would've struggled more than I did. Great operators do help others, but maybe not in their own backyard. Greatness can be achieved in car washing. If you don't believe that, I hope you're my competition.

We use Extrutech. I've never seen a paint that can withstand the abuse of of a carwash.

First of all, before calling people idiots and suggesting they're on booger sugar, you should probably proof your own post before submitting it. Second, just because a 2 mile stretch has two hot dog stands and a steakhouse, it doesn't mean that McDonalds shouldn't build. However, I'm with...